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View Poll Results: How would you classify yourself?
1 - Homer 7 2.44%
2 - Optimist 85 29.62%
3 - Balanced 116 40.42%
4 - Pessimist 67 23.34%
5 - Naysayer 8 2.79%
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:30 AM  
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Let's talk about "true fans"

Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.

The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days:

1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this.

2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel.

3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out.

4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do.

5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up.

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success.

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:53 AM   #196
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The situation and times are what they are. I am a reflection of them. I will continue to sit in the top row and yell "Wild Thing, you suck" until he no longer does.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:05 AM   #197
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The situation and times are what they are. I am a reflection of them. I will continue to sit in the top row and yell "Wild Thing, you suck" until he no longer does.
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and I will continue to sit in the middle and cheer my team on. I will keep hope and optimism alive and I will wish that a giant gust of wind will blow you off the top row.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:10 AM   #198
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and I will continue to sit in the middle and cheer my team on. I will keep hope and optimism alive and I will wish that a giant gust of wind will blow you off the top row.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:01 PM   #199
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and I will continue to sit in the middle and cheer my team on. I will keep hope and optimism alive and I will wish that a giant gust of wind will blow you off the top row.
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:36 PM   #200
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If your patience has worn that thin you might want to find another team to be a fan of. What is the point of being a "fan" of a team that you hate so much? It makes no sense. I seriously fail to see why so many of you haters stick around.
Because that's stupid.

You don't stop being a fan, you just stop giving a **** and realize that a team that more often than not ****s itself is going to continue to **** itself especially when it makes moves that appear to be ****ing itself in the same way its ****ed itself for the past 20 plus years. What's the phrase about doing the same thing and expecting different results? Fans don't give up, but if you have half a brain you stop caring and learn to have fun with the total failure that is your favorite team.

People are still interested in football, they're still interested in the team, so why wouldn't they stick around? Just because they know the team is almost certainly wasting time on a mediocre castoff QB doesn't mean they should just stop coming here so that everyone that thinks the team is going to go 10-6 and make the playoffs can bukake each other.

How's it hating? I see morons just call everyone that questions things haters and it just comes off as though you lack even basic logic so discussing anything makes it an exercise in futility.

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They are seeking validation. They want others to feel the exact same way that they do because if they do then they are justified and normal.

Kinda creepy actually.
Creepy, WTF? Nice psychobabble though.

You basically just perfectly explained the true fans though. "Guys just let us live in blissful ignorance so we can pump our fists and high five each other in our XXXXL shirts and eat BBQ while watching the Chiefs win between 7 and 10 games and never accomplish anything!"
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:47 PM   #201
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Because that's stupid.

You don't stop being a fan, you just stop giving a **** and realize that a team that more often than not ****s itself is going to continue to **** itself especially when it makes moves that appear to be ****ing itself in the same way its ****ed itself for the past 20 plus years. What's the phrase about doing the same thing and expecting different results? Fans don't give up, but if you have half a brain you stop caring and learn to have fun with the total failure that is your favorite team.

People are still interested in football, they're still interested in the team, so why wouldn't they stick around? Just because they know the team is almost certainly wasting time on a mediocre castoff QB doesn't mean they should just stop coming here so that everyone that thinks the team is going to go 10-6 and make the playoffs can bukake each other.

How's it hating? I see morons just call everyone that questions things haters and it just comes off as though you lack even basic logic so discussing anything makes it an exercise in futility.



Creepy, WTF? Nice psychobabble though.

You basically just perfectly explained the true fans though. "Guys just let us live in blissful ignorance so we can pump our fists and high five each other in our XXXXL shirts and eat BBQ while watching the Chiefs win between 7 and 10 games and never accomplish anything!"
I guess I should be pissed off and bitch ALL THE GOD DAMNED TIME about the same thing, every day and then pretend that will change something. Seriously, there needs to be a ****ing broken record animated gif to display every time one of you angry piss ants disagrees with a positive outlook and cries out "true fan."
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:31 PM   #202
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Because that's stupid.

You don't stop being a fan, you just stop giving a **** and realize that a team that more often than not ****s itself is going to continue to **** itself especially when it makes moves that appear to be ****ing itself in the same way its ****ed itself for the past 20 plus years. What's the phrase about doing the same thing and expecting different results? Fans don't give up, but if you have half a brain you stop caring and learn to have fun with the total failure that is your favorite team.

People are still interested in football, they're still interested in the team, so why wouldn't they stick around? Just because they know the team is almost certainly wasting time on a mediocre castoff QB doesn't mean they should just stop coming here so that everyone that thinks the team is going to go 10-6 and make the playoffs can bukake each other.

How's it hating? I see morons just call everyone that questions things haters and it just comes off as though you lack even basic logic so discussing anything makes it an exercise in futility.



Creepy, WTF? Nice psychobabble though.

You basically just perfectly explained the true fans though. "Guys just let us live in blissful ignorance so we can pump our fists and high five each other in our XXXXL shirts and eat BBQ while watching the Chiefs win between 7 and 10 games and never accomplish anything!"
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:33 PM   #203
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I guess I should be pissed off and bitch ALL THE GOD DAMNED TIME about the same thing, every day and then pretend that will change something. Seriously, there needs to be a ****ing broken record animated gif to display every time one of you angry piss ants disagrees with a positive outlook and cries out "true fan."
Yep; fans bitching changes nothing. Ever. SOC says "hi".
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #204
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:44 PM   #205
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:46 PM   #206
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:58 PM   #208
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