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Old 05-04-2013, 11:15 PM  
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Israel Reportedly Bombing Near Damascus (With Video of Attack)

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Old 05-05-2013, 12:25 PM   #16
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Maybe it's just Israel deciding that it can't allow advanced Iranian weaponry to be transferred to Hezbollah.
Maybe. The two ideas aren't mutually exclusive.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:38 PM   #17
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http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affa...trike-in-syria

Obama backs Israeli strike in Syria
By Julian Pecquet
05/05/13 06:30 AM ET

President Obama defended Israel's right to bomb targets inside Syria following reports that the U.S. ally carried out a bombing run to prevent missile transfers to Islamist militants.

“I'll let the Israeli government … confirm or deny whatever strikes that they've taken,” Obama told Telemundo in an interview scheduled to run Sunday. “What I have said in the past and … I continue to believe is that the Israelis justifiably ... have to guard against the transfer of advanced weaponry to terrorist organizations like Hezbollah.”

His comments were made before reports of a second Israeli air strike in days on Syria.

According to Reuters, Syria accused the Jewish state of again striking a military facility just north of the capital, a site that was also targeted three months ago.

The Israeli air force strikes cast a shadow over Obama's three-day trip to Mexico and Costa Rica following the administration's acknowledgment that Bashar Assad's appears to have used chemical weapons, crossing Obama's “red line.” The president reiterated in the interview that he has not taken any options off the table in terms of how to respond, even if sending U.S. troops to Syria isn't currently in the cards.

“With respect to the larger issue of Syria, as I said yesterday … I don't take any options off the table as commander in chief. Circumstances can change. You never know what contingencies you have to deal with,” Obama said, according to a Telemundo transcript. “But … what I do know is that … I cannot see a scenario right now in which American boots on the ground would make any sense. And I cannot see a scenario … in which actually the Syrian people would benefit from American boots on the ground. And that's confirmed by the conversations that I've had with … allies … and people who support the opposition in the region.”

Obama went on to say that his administration would continue to try to get Bashar Assad removed from power. He appeared to downplay the likelihood that his administration would arm vetted Syrian rebel groups, however, something officials have been saying could happen if the intelligence community confirms its assessment that Assad has used chemical weapons.

“What we are going to do,” Obama said, “is continue to provide humanitarian aide, provide [non-]lethal aide, work to ... help the opposition coordinate intelligent … efforts to end the bloodshed and get … Assad out of power so we can move to a peaceful transition.”
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:43 PM   #18
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The president reiterated in the interview that he has not taken any options off the table in terms of how to respond, even if sending U.S. troops to Syria isn't currently in the cards.

“With respect to the larger issue of Syria, as I said yesterday … I don't take any options off the table as commander in chief. Circumstances can change.
Why should anyone care what Obama says? It's clearly just all talk anyway.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:47 PM   #19
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Why should anyone care what Obama says? It's clearly just all talk anyway.
What would be your recommended course of action.

Tell Israel to stand down. Handle this one ourselves.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:21 PM   #20
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As it turns out, Israel is more serious about red lines than the Obama administration is.
Haven't you heard? Obama actually wasn't supposed to say "red line" back in August. It was a mistake. Which leads to this question: if it was a mistake to use the idea of a red line with Syria, why is it not with Iran?
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:32 PM   #21
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What would be your recommended course of action.

Tell Israel to stand down. Handle this one ourselves.
I'd start with making sure that when I say something, I'm prepared to back those words up with action.
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Haven't you heard? Obama actually wasn't supposed to say "red line" back in August. It was a mistake. Which leads to this question: if it was a mistake to use the idea of a red line with Syria, why is it not with Iran?
Yeah, the guy is a keystone cop.
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I'd start with making sure that when I say something, I'm prepared to back those words up with action.
It's okay. I'm sure that the Iranians won't view this in a positive light.
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What would be your recommended course of action.

Tell Israel to stand down. Handle this one ourselves.
Seems Israel has it in hand. Obama can't figure out Benghazi and give an answer to those issues, why the **** would Bibi want Obama's help on this? Course of action is let the adults go to work and go give some more speeches and shit.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:37 PM   #26
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Come to think of it, there might be some shrewdness here at play. I don't know, just follow me here.

The goal of the international community is to dislodge Assad from power. Syria's people seem unable to do much more than draw a stalemate, and in the process suffer the deaths of 60,000+ Syrians, and draw chemical weapon fire from Assad.

So, open two fronts on him. Draw some of Assad's attention and efforts to Israel, where he has absolutely no chance of winning, and initiating some sort of threat against another country could incite international action, or at least direct American action.

At the same time, the international community continues to arm the rebels to grind down Assad's domestic forces.

Getting Assad in direct hot water with Israel can be a quickstrike solution. Arming the rebels is the slowburn solution. Maybe the idea is to get Assad out with both/either.
I don't think it's any more complicated than the Israelis making sure that Iran, through its proxy Hezbollah, doesn't have the capability of firing real weapons at the Jewish state when it eventually attacks Iran. The small rockets aren't really a concern, but missiles with real guidance systems can't be pointed at them when Iran is taken out.

Of course, it doesn't hurt when you know a side effect of such an action will be to sow doubt and dissent. Just ask Rob Stark.
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Bush Official: Syria Chemical Weapons Attack Could Be “Israeli False Flag Operation”

Posted on May 3, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
Hawks Desperate to Drum Up an Excuse for War

It is likely that Al Qaeda rebels – and not the Syrian government – carried out the chemical weapons attack which the hawks in Washington are trying to use as a reason to invade.

Haaretz reported on March 24th, “Jihadists, not Assad, apparently behind reported chemical attack in Syria“.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-e...emium-1.511680

The Syria Tribune(http://www.syria-tribune.com/e/index...apons-in-syria) released a video in December allegedly showing Syrian rebels killing rabbits with chemical weapons, and threatening to use them against supporters of the Syrian government. (It is impossible at this point to say whether this is genuine or propaganda).

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson – the former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell under President George W. Bush – said yesterday that the Syrian chemical weapons could be a “Israeli false flag operation”.

Wilkerson said that he had been told by his sources in the intelligence community that evidence that Syria had used chemical weapons was “really flaky” and that President Barack Obama should think twice before intervening.

“This could have been an Israeli false flag operation,” he said. “You’ve got basically a geo-strategically, geo-political — if you will — inept regime in Tel Aviv right now.”

Indeed, Neoconservatives planned regime change in Syria – and throughout the Middle East and North Africa – 20 years ago.

And carrying out acts of violence and blaming it on the Syrian government as an excuse for regime change – i.e. false flag terror – was discussed over 50 years ago by British and American leaders.

And the “rebels” in Syria that the U.S. has been arming and otherwise supporting are Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood. Indeed, the New York Times reported last week that virtually all of the rebel fighters are Al Qaeda terrorist,

But that doesn’t matter … war is sold just like toothpaste, and once there is a sufficient excuse for war – real or made up – we can march forward.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/...operation.html
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