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Old 06-05-2014, 01:39 PM  
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U.S. reconstitutes group to fight homegrown extremists...

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is reviving a law enforcement group to investigate those it designates as domestic terrorists, the Department of Justice announced Tuesday.

Following hate-motivated shootings such as the one at a Jewish Community Center in Kansas City, Missouri in April, federal prosecutors have pressed the need to coordinate intelligence about such criminals on a national level, Justice Department officials said.

The Department of Justice will reconstitute a task force that was originally formed after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing but dissolved after the Sept. 11, 2001 hijacked plane attacks as law enforcement agencies focused on threats from militants abroad.

On Tuesday, Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement that the United States remains concerned about threats from Islamic extremists, but the group will focus on other motives for attacks within U.S. borders.

Events like the April 2013 bombing of the Boston Marathon, in which the attackers appeared to be influenced by extremists abroad, would not fall under the jurisdiction of the group, named the Domestic Terrorism Executive Committee.

"We must also concern ourselves with the continued danger we face from individuals within our own borders who may be motivated by a variety of other causes from anti-government animus to racial prejudice," Holder said.

The American Civil Liberties Union said it plans to engage with the Justice Department to ensure the effort does not lead to racial profiling or other bias targeting of individuals who may be wrongfully suspected of having violent intentions, said Naureen Shah, legislative counsel for the ACLU.

"Attorney General Holder’s announcement that the new task force will focus on evidence of anti-government animus and racial intolerance raises concerns that it could be a sweeping mandate to monitor and collect controversial speech,” said Lee Rowland, a staff attorney at the ACLU.

The committee's members will come from the FBI, the National Security Division of the Justice Department and the Attorney General's Advisory Committee, which includes representatives of federal prosecutors.

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Old 06-05-2014, 01:42 PM   #2
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'....that the government designates as domestic terrorists"

there'e their get of jail free card.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:52 PM   #3
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Hmm. This is a bit complicated. On one hand I favor a pivot in policy to concentrating on terrorism performed within our borders, including domestic terrorism. Make this pivot go hand-in-hand with increased security/military presence in foreign operations-treat spots like embassies as strongholds requiring defense. On the other hand this pivot would be incredibly fertile ground for abuse against American citizens. How much do I trust government agencies to respect our rights? Not much.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:54 PM   #4
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Hmm. This is a bit complicated. On one hand I favor a pivot in policy to concentrating on terrorism performed within our borders, including domestic terrorism. Make this pivot go hand-in-hand with increased security/military presence in foreign operations-treat spots like embassies as strongholds requiring defense. On the other hand this pivot would be incredibly fertile ground for abuse against American citizens. How much do I trust government agencies to respect our rights? Not much.
You're just showing your anti-government animus. And being a little bit racially intolerant.

Don't worry, I'll make sure they're aware.
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:05 PM   #5
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You're just showing your anti-government animus. And being a little bit racially intolerant.

Don't worry, I'll make sure they're aware.

Well listopencil isn't my real name. Hah!
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:26 PM   #6
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"We must also concern ourselves with the continued danger we face from individuals within our own borders who may be motivated by a variety of other causes from anti-government animus to racial prejudice," Holder said.
He should have just said, "We are excited to create a new program we can use under flimsy pretenses to persecute people whose politics we don't like."
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:42 PM   #7
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Gotta get rid of the enemy within, conform with the thought police or else.

Returning veterans, Christian identity people, Constitutionalists, Ron Paul and Bob Barr supporters, pro-lifers, Gadsden flag wavers... those are just a few of the types of people being put on "watch lists" these days.

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Old 06-05-2014, 02:47 PM   #8
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Gotta get rid of the enemy within, conform with the thought police or else.

Returning veterans, Christian identity people, Constitutionalists, Ron Paul and Bob Barr supporters, pro-lifers, Gadsden flag wavers... those are just a few of the types of people being put on "watch lists" these days.

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Old 06-05-2014, 03:15 PM   #9
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He should have just said, "We are excited to create a new program we can use under flimsy pretenses to persecute people whose politics we don't like."
Works hand in glove with the data mining and the IRS efforts.
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Old 06-05-2014, 03:19 PM   #10
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Its all there in the government memorandum, go look it up, this should give you a head start...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...nservatives-d/
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Old 06-05-2014, 03:28 PM   #11
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I'm guessing this is somehow Bush's fault.

Not that I liked Bush. **** the Patriot Act, too.
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Old 06-05-2014, 03:48 PM   #12
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Old 06-05-2014, 04:08 PM   #13
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Hope they work with homeland security and the BLM.
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Old 06-05-2014, 04:27 PM   #14
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Its all there in the government memorandum, go look it up, this should give you a head start...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...nservatives-d/
Those FEMA camps must be getting pretty full by now.
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He should have just said, "We are excited to create a new program we can use under flimsy pretenses to persecute people whose politics we don't like."
Or we will make dam sure we keep targeting any group or organization or individual that is a threat to keep us out of power over the next ten years.
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