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Old 05-05-2013, 05:03 PM  
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Bengahzi ? Wh Knew, Who lied, who turned a blind eye and deaf ears ?

Bengahzi, we all knew it was a cover up, millions of Americans was blind and deaf, yet still voted for a POTUS and staff that lied and covered it up.

Do you feel better about the POTUS now since this happened? ( as in your own twisted political view , you feel he was the right choice as POTUS )

Same, as in who cares?

Worst ?

So where do you stand about the current staff and the way Bengahzi was handled now ?
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:05 AM   #196
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I can't stand Obama, but even I am having a hard time finding anything of an illegal scandal here.

Here's what it looks like to me:

The administration tried to cover-up their gross incompetence, not some illegal activity, by putting out those talking points. Regardless of Hillary's opinion, this does matter.

1. It means the President willingly lied to the American people. Not the first time in history this has happened, nor the last, but in the throws of an election it may have had huge consequences.

2. Depending on whether it was a protest or an attack, this affects American foreign policy in the region does it not?

3. The talking points contradicted the Libyan president's version of the events as well. In essence, they called him a liar. Was this the reason the FBI couldn't get investigators into the region to investigate the attack and CAPTURE the perpetrators? Is that why we still haven't caught who did it? Or is that such a 'long time ago' that the administration isn't focusing on it anymore?

All in all, it was just gross mismangement and incompetence, IMO. I personally don't think Hillary did anything illegal, but I do think that she wasn't on top of the situation like she should have been and did make wrong decisions. Is this what we could expect from president Hillary?
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:12 AM   #197
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I can't stand Obama, but even I am having a hard time finding anything of an illegal scandal here.

Here's what it looks like to me:

The administration tried to cover-up their gross incompetence, not some illegal activity, by putting out those talking points. Regardless of Hillary's opinion, this does matter.

1. It means the President willingly lied to the American people. Not the first time in history this has happened, nor the last, but in the throws of an election it may have had huge consequences.

2. Depending on whether it was a protest or an attack, this affects American foreign policy in the region does it not?

3. The talking points contradicted the Libyan president's version of the events as well. In essence, they called him a liar. Was this the reason the FBI couldn't get investigators into the region to investigate the attack and CAPTURE the perpetrators? Is that why we still haven't caught who did it? Or is that such a 'long time ago' that the administration isn't focusing on it anymore?

All in all, it was just gross mismangement and incompetence, IMO. I personally don't think Hillary did anything illegal, but I do think that she wasn't on top of the situation like she should have been and did make wrong decisions. Is this what we could expect from president Hillary?
Good analysis. I agree.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:13 AM   #198
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I can't stand Obama, but even I am having a hard time finding anything of an illegal scandal here.

Here's what it looks like to me:

The administration tried to cover-up their gross incompetence, not some illegal activity, by putting out those talking points. Regardless of Hillary's opinion, this does matter.

1. It means the President willingly lied to the American people. Not the first time in history this has happened, nor the last, but in the throws of an election it may have had huge consequences.

2. Depending on whether it was a protest or an attack, this affects American foreign policy in the region does it not?

3. The talking points contradicted the Libyan president's version of the events as well. In essence, they called him a liar. Was this the reason the FBI couldn't get investigators into the region to investigate the attack and CAPTURE the perpetrators? Is that why we still haven't caught who did it? Or is that such a 'long time ago' that the administration isn't focusing on it anymore?

All in all, it was just gross mismangement and incompetence, IMO. I personally don't think Hillary did anything illegal, but I do think that she wasn't on top of the situation like she should have been and did make wrong decisions. Is this what we could expect from president Hillary?
Some illegal happened, but I don't equate it to Watergate which was premeditated crime. There was major incompetence, lying, deception, cover-up and needless American deaths none of which was illegal. The only thing illegal was the White House coercing witnesses, but that seems to be it.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:16 AM   #199
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:18 AM   #200
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Did Hillary lie under oath?
AT THIS POINT AND TIME WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:21 AM   #201
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AT THIS POINT AND TIME WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:26 AM   #202
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I still think there's something being hidden that hasn't come out yet, and may never. When O'Bama and crew went with the narrative right after the attack, many were already questioning why the **** are they going with this story? Going to have to peel away a few more layers to find out what it was. Or O'Bama will try to put a stop to the investigation. Can he do what he did with Fast and Furious?
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:30 AM   #203
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I still think there's something being hidden that hasn't come out yet, and may never. When O'Bama and crew went with the narrative right after the attack, many were already questioning why the **** are they going with this story? Going to have to peel away a few more layers to find out what it was. Or O'Bama will try to put a stop to the investigation. Can he do what he did with Fast and Furious?
If they are hiding anything? IMO they are
Its more gun running & it would have looked like F&F part II at the worst time possible for Obama. I guarantee this is the smoking gun. PUN intended
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Its more gun running & it would have looked like F&F part II at the worst time possible for Obama. I guarantee this is smoking gun. PUN intended
Why Rand Paul mentioned Turkey when questioning Hillary?
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:36 AM   #205
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Why Rand Paul mentioned Turkey when questioning Hillary?
Not sure. I have only seen bits & pieces of that hearing. I can only take about 30 seconds of her mug on my TV before I start gagging & dry heaving
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:39 AM   #206
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If they are hiding anything? IMO they are
Its more gun running & would have looked like F&F II at the worst time possible for Obama. I guarantee it
exactly my thoughts from day 1.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:46 AM   #207
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Why Rand Paul mentioned Turkey when questioning Hillary?
IIRC There were reports that Stevens met with a Turkish General outside the compound the night of the attack. Someone with the state department later said the meeting was held for the opening of a cultural center. Also a Turkish ship was spotted in a Libyan port the week before.
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exactly my thoughts from day 1.
I hope it takes Hillary down for good.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:49 AM   #209
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Oh this has the potential to take down more than just Hillary
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Edit the meeting was days before the attack.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...enghazi-visit/
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