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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-13-2013, 11:58 AM   #1621
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Are there? Because this all started when some here turned the news that the 3rd becomes a 2nd if the Chiefs go 8-8, into, the Chiefs are satisfied with 8-8, which if a wildly inaccurate view. The "realistic" fans like to think they have the correct stance on every Chiefs issue, but they fly off the handle with some theories. Thinking Clark Hunt has some sort of mandate to not draft a QB in the first, and thinking the "true" fans are satisfied with mediocrity are silly notions.
Not sure of the question. Clarify please.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:59 AM   #1622
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They wanted him so bad they benched him mid way through his best season and traded him in the following offseason...

Some peoples children.

You think the 49ers were going to pay Smith 7.5M to be a backup? GTFO. He was on his way to being cut as well. Shame the Chiefs were too scared that someone else might get a mediocre QB who hasn't done much better than Cassel for his career and overspent on yet another 49er washout.
This is awash in your own opinion of Smith and not what people have done or said.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:59 AM   #1623
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Because people are acting like 8-8 should be the goal because going from 2-14 to better than 8-8 is unheard of...

I know he put a qualifier in there. You guys aren't that slick patty
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No, people don't act like that. People act like that is a reasonable first year accomplishment even if the goal is loftier.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:59 AM   #1624
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If you are asking if there are people saying going 8-8 is acceptable because a team can't do better coming off a2-14 season then I'm going to say yes there are.


Read through the thread.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:01 PM   #1625
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Dude I'm not talking in circles with you.


It's obviously what was said.
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OK, I don't know how to answer your question then. If he declines before you've extended him, then don't extend him. If he declines 8 years down the road after winning a few Super Bowls for you, put him in the ring of honor.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:01 PM   #1626
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No, people don't act like that. People act like that is a reasonable first year accomplishment even if the goal is loftier.
Bullshit.

People have said they would be ok with 8-8 this year, because our 29 year old qb the team brought in to win now with needs a learning season.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:02 PM   #1627
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Not sure of the question. Clarify please.
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Sorry. Should have said, are They. As in are people satisfied with 8-8? That wasn't where this all started.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:03 PM   #1628
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OK, I don't know how to answer your question then. If he declines before you've extended him, then don't extend him. If he declines 8 years down the road after winning a few Super Bowls for you, put him in the ring of honor.
no one is taking any 8 years down the road.

You made that up.

the conversation with me was focused on the fact he's under contract for two years.


Read back through the posts, get up to speed, then get back to me
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:03 PM   #1629
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When is the last time the team with the first pick in the draft returned 6 pro bowlers?

So we shouldn't expect the same results as a team with a rookie QB and less talent on the roster?
Given your poor opinion of Alex Smith, you probably should expect the Chiefs to be horrible.

Given the unprecedented 6 pro bowlers, there's plenty of reason to be optimistic, but the team still lost 14 games so it would be ridiculous to think they're poised for immediate playoff success.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:04 PM   #1630
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yeah I caught your qualifier.

They were better than 8-8.

They played winning football and had a chance in the playoffs.

How many 8-8 teams have ever won a playoff game?
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I don't understand why you're talking like we absolutely have to win a playoff game this year.

You're taking the ceiling of next years expectations and trying to make it the floor.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:04 PM   #1631
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Sorry. Should have said, are They. As in are people satisfied with 8-8? That wasn't where this all started.
Yes people have cautioned that we are silly for expecting more. Pretentious was the word.

If they think that shouldn't we be led to believe they are ok with that?
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Bullshit.

People have said they would be ok with 8-8 this year, because our 29 year old qb the team brought in to win now with needs a learning season.
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This is the thing right here. If he is suppose to be better than Matty Cassel and we went to the playoffs in 2010 and this is basically the same nucleus of a team with upgraded O-line then we have no excuse not to win a ****ing playoff game this year let alone get there.


Any thing less is bull shit for a retread quarterback.
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You make a trade giving up two second round picks for a 28 year old quarterback, you better be 8-8 or better.
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Bullshit.

People have said they would be ok with 8-8 this year, because our 29 year old qb the team brought in to win now with needs a learning season.
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That's not the same thing. Why did you change the words you're using?
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