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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:17 AM   #166
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If John Dorsey were worth a squirrel fart, he'd be drafting great players with those 2nd rounders just like the Ravens, Packers, Seahawks, 49ers, and every other team with a great GM does.

You've never known a franchise to do anything else but piss away a 2nd round pick on Javier Arenas, so that's what the pick means to you.

In the meantime, we passed up an opportunity to draft some pretty damn good ****ing players with this year's 2nd rounder. I can't wait until next year to find out what kind of stellar athletes won't be on our team all because of Alex ****ing Smith.


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Old 05-06-2013, 10:18 AM   #167
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8-8.....really shooting for the ****ing moon there..
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If Alex Smith leads us into the playoffs then it was worth it.
Alex Smith may manage the talented roster into the playoffs, but it won't be because of him.



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If we go from the worst team in football, a national joke......... to the playoffs the next year, it was draft picks well spent.
The worst team in football with 6 pro bowlers, oh yeah it will be because of that trade that the team gets to 10 and 6.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:21 AM   #168
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I'm not sure if this has been said, but Alex Smith sucks
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:21 AM   #169
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The way the 49ers are building up all the extra picks year after year, they might be up to 20 picks soon. JFC what a sharp organization they have.....
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:23 AM   #170
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Packers 2nd round picks since 2006:

2006: Daryn Colledge; Greg Jennings
2007: Brandon Jackson
2008: Jordy Nelson; Brian Brohm; Patrick Lee
2009: none
2010: Mike Neal
2011: Randall Cobb
2012: Jerel Worthy

So they are good at selecting receivers...but how much does a guy like Aaron Rodgers help their development? Would they be considered good with Matt Cassel? Other than the receivers...big ****ing deal. We land guys like this in the 2nd round all of the time.

Moving on to the Ravens.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:25 AM   #171
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Because we were furiously working to outbid several other teams.



A combination of business and football acumen.

The Chiefs need to be competitive, and you're not getting that with Carson Palmer, Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, Geno Smith, or Matt Barkley. You're getting it from Alex Smith.

Build a team around him for a year, then see what you can do to get The Guy.

You still believe that?

The next, "that guy" is going to be the next re-tread failure to give the fans a reason to have optimism that the team can "get to the playoffs."
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:26 AM   #172
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:27 AM   #173
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one team is doing it right, one isn't...couldn't be more clear

one drafted a QB, then another when that didn't work out...then traded the bust for multiple picks...Superbowl

the other (cough chiefs cough) never drafted a QB...then traded multiple picks for a bust backup...




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Old 05-06-2013, 10:29 AM   #174
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2006: Chris Chester
2007: N/A
2008: Ray Rice
2009: Paul Kruger
2010: Sergio Kindle; Terrence Cody
2011: Torrey Smith
2012: Courtney Upshaw; Kelechi Osemele

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what happened to sergio kindle? did he retire cus he broke his skull open falling down the stairs?
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:31 AM   #175
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one team is doing it right, one isn't...couldn't be more clear

one drafted a QB, then another when that didn't work out...then traded the bust for multiple picks...Superbowl

the other (cough chiefs cough) never drafted a QB...then traded multiple picks for a bust backup...




ain't science
we traded Chris Chester and Ray Rice for Alex Smith.

big ****ing deal

or did you want another year with Brady Quinn and Matt Cassel?

or did you want to take Geno Smith #1 when he went #39?

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #176
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did people expect this conditional 2nd to only be a 2nd if we went 14-2 and Alex Smith won the MVP?

...I'm not quite sure what everyone is up in arms about

we've known this for a long time now
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #177
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next year we'll be 8-8 with no 2nd round pick to use for a trade up

according to Chiefs fans, we're going to get our QBOTF in next years draft...and remember, any qb we draft has to be completely risk free like ANDREW LUCK OMG!!


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Old 05-06-2013, 10:33 AM   #178
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having to give up a '14 2nd if we go better than 8&8 is pretty shitty but what were our ****in options? Draft EJ or Geno 1.1 and start em day 1? none of the gms in the league thought they were any good and thats why they fell. I kept forcing myself to believe in Geno but in the end Dorsey and AR got the best qb that was available this offseason. period. Ive come around on it. Weve just gotta pray to baby jesus that they dont extend AS and we see how our qb group plans out in the next 2 years. Chiefs have always sucked so im not really worried about it anymore. Ive made my peace with forever mediocrity.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:34 AM   #179
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Luck was a "generational talent," and the Chiefs weren't in a position to draft him.

Welp, there's always hope for the next generation.
For the next few years it will be: They were already off the board by our pick, and we didn't have the ammo or a trade partner to move up.
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For the next few years it will be: They were already off the board by our pick, and we didn't have the ammo or a trade partner to move up.
Dorsey knows what hes doing. If theres a qb in reach, he'll trade up for him. He knows the value of a qb and he knows what it takes to win in the modern nfl, a qb.
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