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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:38 AM   #181
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I'm pretty sure that the 2014 QB draft class isn't as good as the 2013. Logan Thomas was downright horrible this past season and wanted to come out, but was basically forced back into school through his own terrible play. He's a hobo's version of EJ Manuel.

Aaron Murray is as up and down as you can find at the QB spot and has never played up to the competition. Comparable to Ryan Nassib.

Teddy Bridgewater is a nice player, but he's not at the same level as Geno Smith in terms of tools, arm and presence.

Tajh Boyd is decent and has improved, but he's not Russell Wilson by any stretch.

IMO, the best two QB's of this class are Chuckie Keeton of Utah State (absolute winner with a great arm and excellent athleticism - reminds me of a smaller Colin Kaepernick at the same stage) and Marcus Mariota of Oregon. Both are very accurate, athletic with very good arms. Both are winners. Both are coming off superb 2012 seasons and aren't getting any attention from the national press for whatever reason. But both will be juniors and might not even declare. I'd take Keeton in a heartbeat if I were the Chiefs.
JFC you are stupid. Teddy Bridgewater looks like a very good QB prospect and he's easily better than Geno Smith in almost every single facet.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #182
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Alex Smith may manage the talented roster into the playoffs, but it won't be because of him.




The worst team in football with 6 pro bowlers, oh yeah it will be because of that trade that the team gets to 10 and 6.
Fair point. But if you were going into another season with Matt Cassel, or Brady Quinn, you would be picking top 5 again. At the very least, Alex Smith is not going to turn the ball over......That in it of itself, is reason enough to justify 2 2nd round picks. A qb that wont cost you games. Remember, more games are lost, than won. Statistics back that up.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:47 AM   #183
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Can you imagine if we go 8-8, then come draft time we will be holding about the 17th pick in the first round and no second round pick. I literally cannot comprehend a situation like that.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:49 AM   #184
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The worst team in football with 6 pro bowlers, oh yeah it will be because of that trade that the team gets to 10 and 6.
The pro bowl is a joke. Matt Cassell was a pro bowler.

I consider last years team the worst in football and a national joke. When Leno/Fallon are making jokes about how much you suck............ thats the definition of a national joke of a team.

If we go to the playoffs it will because of Reif/Dorsey's moves not because of ***** stocked the team with talent.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:51 AM   #185
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Dorsey knows what hes doing. If theres a qb in reach, he'll trade up for him. He knows the value of a qb and he knows what it takes to win in the modern nfl, a qb.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:55 AM   #186
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The pro bowl is a joke. Matt Cassell was a pro bowler.

I consider last years team the worst in football and a national joke. When Leno/Fallon are making jokes about how much you suck............ thats the definition of a national joke of a team.

If we go to the playoffs it will because of Reif/Dorsey's moves not because of ***** stocked the team with talent.
and reids coaching. It will be amazing to see what an Nfl offense looks like compared to brian Dabolls pee wee play book.....
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:58 AM   #187
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The pro bowl is a joke. Matt Cassell was a pro bowler.

I consider last years team the worst in football and a national joke. When Leno/Fallon are making jokes about how much you suck............ thats the definition of a national joke of a team.

If we go to the playoffs it will because of Reif/Dorsey's moves not because of ***** stocked the team with talent.
Cassel went to the probowl because he was an alternate and the team was 10 and 6 while beating nobody.

This team has been the Leno joke many times in the last few years, nothing new. Right now this team has more talent IMO than it has in many years, except behind center.

If you have been following my posts, I was very skeptical of the RAC hire as HC, and that, along with absolute shit at the coordinator positions, was a large part of the fail along with Cassel.

This team should go 8-8 with anyone behind center other than Cassel, and a HC and coordinators that can spell their own names correctly twice in a row.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:02 AM   #188
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Perfect season?

Win 7 games at home by thirty points each.

Lose 9 other games by one point.

In last game of season, Alex Smith is benched for Chase Daniel who breaks his finger (by getting punched in nose har har har kill me).

Chiefs keep 2nd round pick, have top 10 draft pick. Draft QB. Profit.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:04 AM   #189
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Packers 2nd round picks since 2006:

2006: Daryn Colledge; Greg Jennings
2007: Brandon Jackson
2008: Jordy Nelson; Brian Brohm; Patrick Lee
2009: none
2010: Mike Neal
2011: Randall Cobb
2012: Jerel Worthy

So they are good at selecting receivers...but how much does a guy like Aaron Rodgers help their development? Would they be considered good with Matt Cassel? Other than the receivers...big ****ing deal. We land guys like this in the 2nd round all of the time.

Moving on to the Ravens.
Three starting WRs (Cobb will be the WR2 in place of Jennings this season) a starting LG, and a starting DL.

If the Chiefs had the likelihood of hitting that much on 2nd round picks, I guarantee you most of the posters here wouldn't be up for pissing them away on Alex Smiths.

(And yes, I used "pissed away" correctly. Check the lexicon.)
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:05 AM   #190
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Most of the people complaining about 2 second round picks for Alex Smith would have loved the reach-tastic risk of using the 1.1 on Geno Smith. Good grief.
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Three starting WRs (Cobb will be the WR2 in place of Jennings this season) a starting LG, and a starting DL.

If the Chiefs had the likelihood of hitting that much on 2nd round picks, I guarantee you most of the posters here wouldn't be up for pissing them away on Alex Smiths.

(And yes, I used "pissed away" correctly. Check the lexicon.)
probably not on Cobb.

James Jones, the reason they let Greg Jennings leave, and let donald driver retire, is going to be their two. They will use Randall Cobb as a jack of all trades. Slot, running back, kick returner. Cobb is not an outside receiver. the rest is accurate though.
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5 hits, 4 misses for the Packers in the 2nd round since 2006.

Those picks are practically worthless!
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:07 AM   #193
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Most of the people complaining about 2 second round picks for Alex Smith would have loved the reach-tastic risk of using the 1.1 on Geno Smith. Good grief.
Even haters like you put a 2nd round grade on Geno Smith.

You're calling that a reach? In your own goddamn universe that's not a reach.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:08 AM   #194
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Most of the people complaining about 2 second round picks for Alex Smith would have loved the reach-tastic risk of using the 1.1 on Geno Smith. Good grief.
well of course. Even though, Geno Smith is showing quickly, how he is incapable of being a mature, professional, while Mark Sanchez is burying him with professionalism, even though he knows that he has as good a chance surviving this season in new york, as i do all day out in the desert with no water, taking him, would show the malcontents that HEY WE ARE TRYING GUYS. never mind that this guy is GARBAGE, we at least tried......
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5 hits, 4 misses for the Packers in the 2nd round since 2006.

Those picks are practically worthless!
Yeah...they didn't do so bad. Aaron Rodgers probably helps considering three of the hits are receivers....

But I'm still not seeing why Randall Cobb and Daryn Colledge for Alex Smith upsets this idiotic fan base so much?

Darn...we traded Brandon Flowers and Dexter McCluster for Alex Smith.

The world ends.
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