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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-17-2013, 03:40 PM   #2386
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What do you expect he knows more than us, because Alex Smith is taking the Chiefs to the promiseland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:06 PM   #2387
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this thread lives because their aint shit else to talk about.

Alex Smith is the most polarizing figure that I have ever seen outside of tim Tebow.

Jasons Auto, man, I thought we were getting along, and now Im delusional. shessh.

Patteau. thank you for the kind words, but really, im not worth the flaming. Honestly. I have tried to be as fair about alex smith as humanly possible. But again, thank you.

KCTATTOO- Dude like me or hate me, your passion about the shit is hilarious. Like seriously, one of my favorite posters here..

Kaepernick- How about we just bury the old hatchet?

And to anyone else I missed or offended, I do apologize.

Cant wait for football season.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:08 PM   #2388
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Oh, we will get along just fine as long as you realize you are delusional
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:09 PM   #2389
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to a degree, all football fans are delusional.......,.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:09 PM   #2390
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I think I have a better allegory:

Fred has a girlfriend he loves and adores. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred finds a new girlfriend that's like a photocopy of his old girlfriend. He loves and adores her. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred finds a new new girlfriend that's like a photocopy of his old old girlfriend. He loves and adores her. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred keeps doing this over and over. Fred is now 90 years old... alone... and wonders why he kept picking the same woman over and over instead of learning from his mistakes and breaking the pattern. Although his best friend thanks him daily for it.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:10 PM   #2392
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:14 PM   #2393
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this thread lives because their aint shit else to talk about.

Alex Smith is the most polarizing figure that I have ever seen outside of tim Tebow.
LOL, you weren't around during the Matt Cassel debate.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:18 PM   #2394
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I think I have a better allegory:

Fred has a girlfriend he loves and adores. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred finds a new girlfriend that's like a photocopy of his old girlfriend. He loves and adores her. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred finds a new new girlfriend that's like a photocopy of his old old girlfriend. He loves and adores her. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred keeps doing this over and over. Fred is now 90 years old... alone... and wonders why he kept picking the same woman over and over instead of learning from his mistakes and breaking the pattern. Although his best friend thanks him daily for it.
Do you think Elvis Grbac or Matt Cassel were photocopies of Joe Montana?
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:25 PM   #2395
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Do you think Elvis Grbac or Matt Cassel were photocopies of Joe Montana?
That's a bizarre question.

And no, Montana actually goes against the trend. He was a hall-of-fame starter in the twilight of his career coming off injuries, rather than a never-was backup, and was traded (at his request as I recall) to avoid a controversy/team rift with Steve Young. A better exception to use would have been Trent Green.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:37 PM   #2396
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That's a bizarre question.

And no, Montana actually goes against the trend. He was a hall-of-fame starter in the twilight of his career coming off injuries, rather than a never-was backup, and was traded (at his request as I recall) to avoid a controversy/team rift with Steve Young. A better exception to use would have been Trent Green.
That's a good exception too, but Joe Montana was fine. Either one of them show that the "photocopy" part of your analogy is bogus. If you want to argue that your analogy is designed around including Montana then it's not much of an analogy, IMO.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:26 PM   #2397
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I think I have a better allegory:

Fred has a girlfriend he loves and adores. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred finds a new girlfriend that's like a photocopy of his old girlfriend. He loves and adores her. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred finds a new new girlfriend that's like a photocopy of his old old girlfriend. He loves and adores her. She breaks his heart by cheating on him and leaving him for his best friend. Fred mourns for a few weeks and then decides to jump right back on the saddle.

Fred keeps doing this over and over. Fred is now 90 years old... alone... and wonders why he kept picking the same woman over and over instead of learning from his mistakes and breaking the pattern. Although his best friend thanks him daily for it.
Yeah, its a good analogy for those that think, Alex Smith = Matt Cassel. I think Cassel is a back up, would be a backup for every team in the NFL. Smith should and would start for 10-12 teams right now, including the Vikings. He'd be their best QB right now.

Many here aren't even interested in realistic projections for the rookie QBs, they just want one for the possibility and the unknown factor. If that's so, Bray is everything you'd want. He has upside potential, as much as any in this draft. So, the Chiefs get the best QB on the market, and a rookie with potential. What's wrong?
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:47 PM   #2399
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Cutler and Romo are both inconsisent.

Alex Smith won't win you a game like Cutler or Romo can.

Alex Smith won't lose you games either, like Cutler and Romo can.

When the game seems to be going nowhere midway through the 3rd quarter, Alex just keeps plugging away diligently, giving his Defense and rushing attack the chance to make plays and win games. He doesn't panic and try to do too much. True he is no Brady or Rodgers, stepping up and taking the appropriate risk at the appropriate time. But the one silver lining is that he won't press and throw away the a game that seems to be going nowhere, but his rushing game eventually wears down the opposing D.

I've seen Cutler and Romo flat throw games away. I would take Alex Smith over Jay Cutler or Tony Romo-coaster.

All 3 hurt their teams, just in different way. Alex is too cautious. Cutler and Romo are too inconsistent. Neither one steps up in the clutch.

I didn't say I would take Schaub or Ryan or Stafford or Bradford over Alex. Just Cutler and Romo.
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Cutler and Romo are both inconsisent.

Alex Smith won't win you a game like Cutler or Romo can.

Alex Smith won't lose you games either, like Cutler and Romo can.

When the game seems to be going nowhere midway through the 3rd quarter, Alex just keeps plugging away diligently, giving his Defense and rushing attack the chance to make plays and win games. He doesn't panic and try to do too much. True he is no Brady or Rodgers, stepping up and taking the appropriate risk at the appropriate time. But the one silver lining is that he won't press and throw away the a game that seems to be going nowhere, but his rushing game eventually wears down the opposing D.

I've seen Cutler and Romo flat throw games away. I would take Alex Smith over Jay Cutler or Tony Romo-coaster.

All 3 hurt their teams, just in different way. Alex is too cautious. Cutler and Romo are too inconsistent. Neither one steps up in the clutch.

I didn't say I would take Schaub or Ryan or Stafford or Bradford over Alex. Just Cutler and Romo.
Your knock on Romo is what keeps him out of the elite group like Brees and Brady just like it keeps Favre from Montana, but it in no way shape or from drags him down to the level of Alice Smith. Look at these career numbers man. This really shouldn't even be a discussion. It's like comparing Michael Jordan to Scotty Pippen.

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