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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-17-2013, 06:16 PM   #2401
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:22 PM   #2402
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Hands up, all you Chief's fans who like talking to Scientologists and Moonies.

Alexsexuals are the Scientologists of the sports world. They are here to CONVERT YOU into the Cult of Alex Smith. No Jesuit Missionary seeking to save the souls of Injuns ever held more passionate self-righteous zeal than the least among Acolytes of the Cult of Alex Smith.

It is easier to talk a Kirby Vaccum salesman into leaving your home in the mid demonstration.

Think of a 50 lb deer tick with the brain of a American Pit Bull terrier.

Alexsexuals are the Energizer bunnies except powered with miniature nuclear reactors.

Here is the worst part.

You haven't seen anything yet. Wait until the season starts and Alexcuses fill the air. "Andy's not using Alex like Jim", "The weak line is giving up sacks", "the Chiefs pass too much."

Oh, you are in for a very long season indeed. May I recommend,

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Old 05-17-2013, 06:34 PM   #2403
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:41 PM   #2404
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:43 PM   #2405
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Hands up, all you Chief's fans who like talking to Scientologists and Moonies.

Alexsexuals are the Scientologists of the sports world. They are here to CONVERT YOU into the Cult of Alex Smith. No Jesuit Missionary seeking to save the souls of Injuns ever held more passionate self-righteous zeal than the least among Acolytes of the Cult of Alex Smith.

It is easier to talk a Kirby Vaccum salesman into leaving your home in the mid demonstration.

Think of a 50 lb deer tick with the brain of a American Pit Bull terrier.

Alexsexuals are the Energizer bunnies except powered with miniature nuclear reactors.

Here is the worst part.

You haven't seen anything yet. Wait until the season starts and Alexcuses fill the air. "Andy's not using Alex like Jim", "The weak line is giving up sacks", "the Chiefs pass too much."

Oh, you are in for a very long season indeed. May I recommend,

I can believe it. They've already converted the former Cassholes of this site lock, stock, and noodle-armed barrell. They are a strong cult indeed.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:01 PM   #2409
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:07 PM   #2410
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:12 PM   #2411
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Yeah, its a good analogy for those that think, Alex Smith = Matt Cassel. I think Cassel is a back up, would be a backup for every team in the NFL. Smith should and would start for 10-12 teams right now, including the Vikings. He'd be their best QB right now.

Many here aren't even interested in realistic projections for the rookie QBs, they just want one for the possibility and the unknown factor. If that's so, Bray is everything you'd want. He has upside potential, as much as any in this draft. So, the Chiefs get the best QB on the market, and a rookie with potential. What's wrong?
You should really stop making assumptions.

I don't think Alex Smith equals Matt Cassel. And there's no mention of rookie quarterbacks in anything that I've said. Because rookie quarterbacks have nothing to do with it.

The question should be whether Alex Smith can be Joe Montana, not whether he's the new Matt Cassel. Or whether Alex Smith can be Drew Brees. Or whether Alex Smith can be Brett Favre. Or even whether Alex Smith can be Trent Green.

If he's any less than that, then this trade just was not worth it. People need to raise the bar.

And if you think my expectations aren't "reasonable" then I would imagine it's because, deep down at some subconscious level you don't believe that he's all that great either, but you're trying really hard to convince yourself otherwise. And that's fine.

As I've said before, I hope that he does turn into something more than he ever has been before. I really, sincerely hope that he's not just a limited game manager who can't do much more but avoid screw ups while he rides a strong running game and defense to close wins. I hope 6 months from now I'm a convert singing Andy Reid's praises, and just gobsmacked at how awesome Alex Smith was after all.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:22 PM   #2412
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Chad Pennington in 2008 was pretty good.

Won 11 games with the team that had the top pick in the draft.

If we get that kind of year out of Alex, things will be looking up.
They went one-and-done in the playoffs, got blown out by the Ravens at home.

Sounds like a story I've read somewhere before.

(I liked Chad Pennington, by the way, but we should be striving for more)
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:04 PM   #2413
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You should really stop making assumptions.

I don't think Alex Smith equals Matt Cassel. And there's no mention of rookie quarterbacks in anything that I've said. Because rookie quarterbacks have nothing to do with it.

The question should be whether Alex Smith can be Joe Montana, not whether he's the new Matt Cassel. Or whether Alex Smith can be Drew Brees. Or whether Alex Smith can be Brett Favre. Or even whether Alex Smith can be Trent Green.

If he's any less than that, then this trade just was not worth it. People need to raise the bar

And if you think my expectations aren't "reasonable" then I would imagine it's because, deep down at some subconscious level you don't believe that he's all that great either, but you're trying really hard to convince yourself otherwise. And that's fine.

As I've said before, I hope that he does turn into something more than he ever has been before. I really, sincerely hope that he's not just a limited game manager who can't do much more but avoid screw ups while he rides a strong running game and defense to close wins. I hope 6 months from now I'm a convert singing Andy Reid's praises, and just gobsmacked at how awesome Alex Smith was after all.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:13 PM   #2414
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They went one-and-done in the playoffs, got blown out by the Ravens at home.

Sounds like a story I've read somewhere before.

(I liked Chad Pennington, by the way, but we should be striving for more)
If we get a few Chad Pennington esque years out of Alex (injuries aside) while finding and developing his replacement, I think an argument could be made that the trade compensation wasnt as terrible as first thought.

A franchise quarterback is worth multiple firsts, so a guy like Alex is somehow viewed as the next tier down and was deemed worthy of multiple seconds.

Oh well, just make it work.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:14 PM   #2415
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You should really stop making assumptions.

I don't think Alex Smith equals Matt Cassel. And there's no mention of rookie quarterbacks in anything that I've said. Because rookie quarterbacks have nothing to do with it.

The question should be whether Alex Smith can be Joe Montana, not whether he's the new Matt Cassel. Or whether Alex Smith can be Drew Brees. Or whether Alex Smith can be Brett Favre. Or even whether Alex Smith can be Trent Green.

If he's any less than that, then this trade just was not worth it. People need to raise the bar.

And if you think my expectations aren't "reasonable" then I would imagine it's because, deep down at some subconscious level you don't believe that he's all that great either, but you're trying really hard to convince yourself otherwise. And that's fine.

As I've said before, I hope that he does turn into something more than he ever has been before. I really, sincerely hope that he's not just a limited game manager who can't do much more but avoid screw ups while he rides a strong running game and defense to close wins. I hope 6 months from now I'm a convert singing Andy Reid's praises, and just gobsmacked at how awesome Alex Smith was after all.
Sorry. I thought the whole, making the same mistake with girlfriends analogy was referencing signing backup QBs that are all the same mistake over and over. And the only way to stop was to break the pattern, which, again, I assumed meant going with a rookie QB.
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