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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-06-2013, 12:37 PM   #241
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:37 PM   #242
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If people are expecting Alex Smith to come in and look like Trent Green then I can see why there is such a divide on CP about the guy and compensation.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:38 PM   #243
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Alex Smith is not a QB that will ever win a Super Bowl. No team that has Alex Smith as their starting QB will win a Super Bowl. We traded one second and very possibly another second for Alex Smith, who will never win us a Super Bowl. We have not drafted QB in the first round in 30 years. We have numerous times traded picks for other team's trash/backups and made them our starters. This has never won us a Super Bowl. We have not win a playoff game in 20 years. During that time, we have never drafted a QB in the first round but we have on numerous occasions traded for or signed another team's castoff and made him our starting QB. We are putting ourselves farther away from a Super Bowl in exchange for a mediocre QB that will get us some 8-8 seasons and put butts in the seats.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:38 PM   #244
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my whole thought process was Alex Smith was somewhere between the two Trent's (Dilfer and Green)...

if he reaches his ceiling (Green), it was a damn good trade

and I think we've built an offense and have the right coaches for him to be able to play at that level

and I'll take 3 more years of Trent Green over Brady ****ing Quinn 1000 times out of 1000
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:39 PM   #245
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Well, I guess it is official now....the Chiefs got fleeced on the trade. Paid way too much for a qb nobody wanted in free agency the year before.

The Niners come out smelling like roses...if the Chiefs do well, the get a mid to late second...and if the Chiefs stink...then they will get a high third.
Are you saying that a 2nd + 3rd was fine, but a 2nd + 2nd was getting fleeced?
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #246
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So now Peyton Manning is the standard? If a quarterback isn't Peyton Manning, he's not worth acquiring?

News flash: There were no Peyton Mannings or Joe Montanas available this year either in free agency or the draft. The closest thing out there is going to start for the Chiefs next season.
Yes, I want my team to aspire for excellence, instead of leaping at mediocrity, like they have been doing for the last 27 years since Montana hung it up. This year is just the latest version of a long term trend, and I don't see it changing.

The fact that the Chiefs refuse to try to find a QB of their own is my problem.

Oh, lets throw and occasional 3 or 5th at one, and let him sit on the bench until we do it again. Hey we drafted a QB!
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:43 PM   #247
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There is the problem.
With the best running game in the NFL, Trent Green didn't win a playoff game. I don't want to settle for another Trent Green.

But hey, at least they had that 13 and 3 season and the 9 and 7 back into the playoffs year! Woot!

Now cue up the "defense sucked so bad that they didn't win in the playoffs" posts. Last I checked, the Colts didn't make the Chiefs punt either, but they won!
You can try to dismiss that important factor, but I'm sure you remember those days when most of us here at CP thought that all we needed was a Branden Albert quality defense (arguably top ten, but no worse than above average) and we'd have ourselves a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:45 PM   #248
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I still contend that, with a healthy Willie Roaf, we were absolutely a super bowl caliber team in 2005.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:45 PM   #249
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are you carrying on one conversation as Hootie in this thread... ?

and another as the Talking Can?


you both have the exact same posting style and it's pretty unique...

you both like to use ellipses a lot even before or after questions marks

you tend to use lower case letters to start new sentences but capitalize nouns

you like to post in quick sentences a lot followed by double or triple spaces

I can't imagine any person doing that but when scrolling through this thread they looked incredibly similar
I'd like to think The Talking Can is just a wacky character someone's playing rather than a real person who believes the thing he's posting, but I don't think so.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:45 PM   #250
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:46 PM   #251
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and more to that point

had we gotten the 6 over the Steelers there wasn't a team in the AFC that would have wanted to face us in the playoffs

our run game with LJ that year was literally unstoppable...had he played the entire year over Priest he would have simply shattered the single season rushing record and it wouldn't have been close
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:54 PM   #252
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Chiefs are going 10-6 or better

Alex Smith doesn't turn the ball over ever
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:54 PM   #253
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which is all fine and dandy if you try and forget Drew Brees was a bust and San Diego drafted Eli Manning

he was benched for Doug Flutie

they gave up on him

Rivers' holdout gave him one last chance and he took it and ran.
And Brees put up numbers very similar to Green expect for that disaster that was 2003 season. A young quarterback taking grow pains is expected everywhere but Kansas City.

But a young Drew Brees going into his prime with LJ in his prime. Damn.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:57 PM   #254
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Dang, I thought the trade was horrible before I found out that we were trading a 3rd round pick next year for that scrub. What a waste of draft picks.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:58 PM   #255
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Chiefs are going 10-6 or better

Alex Smith doesn't turn the ball over ever
Correct. He prefers to instead take 50 drive killing sacks.
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