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Old 05-06-2013, 08:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-20-2013, 11:12 PM   #2701
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It appears a Lil Chiefy Syndrome awareness week may be in order.
I agree. This debilitating disease needs a full expose'. Unlike TFS, LCS afflicts those that actually want the Chiefs to be consistent playoff victors, but refuse to acknowledge the modern NFL team-building process required to get there. It's a fine line between the two.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:41 PM   #2702
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Being competitive with a rookie for two years while he learns the NFL curve? Acceptable. Being competitive with Alex Smith for two years and no championship appearance? Bullshit.
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If starting Alex Smith allows Andy Reid to learn an offense he believes is the wave of the future, then it's 2 years well spent. I don't want Alex Smith starting 3 years from now. But I don't buy that you have to jam a rookie into this rotation if the coaching staff doesn't believe in any of the talent in this draft. If they do that for 3 years, fine to bitch about it. If they did that this year and there was clear demand for the top QBs in the class, I can understand that too.

Reid is installing an offense that Chase Daniel can run and that is VERY college QB friendly. And Alex Smith is actually a guy that fits very nicely. Even if he doesn't win us games, I believe he lets Andy Reid learn a lot about how to run this offense.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:07 AM   #2703
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How does a coach "learn" his own offense?
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:09 AM   #2704
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Frankly, letting Chase Daniel "run" anything at the NFL level seems a complete waste of time.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:18 AM   #2705
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Andy Reid is a West Coast offense coach.

He hired Brad Childress to learn about the Spread. He hired Ault to learn about the Pistol and Spread Option. This is going to be new for Reid and I'm sure a lot of it will be learning on the fly.

Incidentally... if Gruden came back, he planned to do something similar. He's a WCO guy that was studying up heavily on the Spread. Tells you something there.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:08 AM   #2706
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Jesus; will the Chiefs ever develop the personnel necessary to run a vertical passing game? Trickery and making up for lack of talent will only take you so far, and not for long. You would think our illustrious HC would know this by now. FML...
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:29 PM   #2707
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Jesus; will the Chiefs ever develop the personnel necessary to run a vertical passing game? Trickery and making up for lack of talent will only take you so far, and not for long. You would think our illustrious HC would know this by now. FML...
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Reids biggest failures in philly came when he did adapt to the vertical passing game.

he had speedsters in Djax and Maclin, and what happened? He ran through qbs like xlax threw a fat lady. What he needs to do, more than anything is develop the personnel for balance..........
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:37 PM   #2708
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Jesus; will the Chiefs ever develop the personnel necessary to run a vertical passing game? Trickery and making up for lack of talent will only take you so far, and not for long. You would think our illustrious HC would know this by now. FML...
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I don't think your post is grounded whatsoever in reality.

The best offenses today are running some version of the spread. And currently, the pistol offense has evolved into an offense that defenses haven't yet figured out how to stop.

And teams are focusing on how to spread the defense wide, not vertically. While you still want some vertical in your game, you're seeing a lot of empty backfield sets these days.

I think this criticism of Andy Reid is ridiculous. Personally, I think it speaks very positively about the head coach that he's willing to gut his old approach and adapt to the game.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:53 PM   #2709
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I don't think your post is grounded whatsoever in reality.

The best offenses today are running some version of the spread. And currently, the pistol offense has evolved into an offense that defenses haven't yet figured out how to stop.

And teams are focusing on how to spread the defense wide, not vertically. While you still want some vertical in your game, you're seeing a lot of empty backfield sets these days.

I think this criticism of Andy Reid is ridiculous. Personally, I think it speaks very positively about the head coach that he's willing to gut his old approach and adapt to the game.
Yes and no. But, if anyone can put a pretty dress on Smith, it would be Reid.
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:48 PM   #2710
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Every mental institution has one sane guy wondering what he is doing in there. I'm naming this guy McMurphy after Jack Nicholas's character in "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest".
They're all cheering that we didn't draft Joekel, well, except that one guy....
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"The Texas Twat" as I calls' im. Think he lived down the street from him or was possibly a kissing cousin...
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Some no-name who showed up at the 11th hour. Got his happy ass handed to him until he disappeared.
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Worse is being around a bunch of chicks in Cassel jerseys, MNF, 2010. The urge to pimp-slap was overpowering, but I managed to keep my hand cool...
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