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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-07-2013, 08:35 PM   #796
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There aren't really any Alex Smith trolls. Most of the new posters who came here because they like Alex Smith have been pretty reasonable, particularly in light of the immature response they've gotten from a particular group of planeteers who desperately cling to their victimhood.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:38 PM   #797
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The Raiders traded for Matt Flynn giving up a 2014 5th round pick, and another late conditional round in 2015.

If Matt Flynn pans out for them, you guys are going to be crying in your soup or putting holes in your walls. One or the other.

I kind of doubt a 7th round draft choice will pan out, but he is Mike McCarthy trained and held Aaron Rodgers's clipboard for 4 years.

IMHO, I would much rather take a flier on Flynn for 2 late draft picks than waste 2 2nd rounders on Alex Smiff. If Flynn balls out for the Raiders, Dorsey is going to look pretty stupid.
That's a fair opinion. But given that John Dorsey was in the Green Bay organization, the fact that he passed on Flynn would concern me.

I could see taking Flynn in a cynical move to freshen up the place while still planning to do poorly next year and draft the real QBotF, but I really don't expect Flynn to outplay Alex Smith.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:39 PM   #798
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okay, well ill make you a deal, i wont tell you any more about your chiefs. But, until alex smith has played a down in pre season, you cant say shit else about him. Fair enough to me.
Hey dumb shit. Do a search of my posts. I've said exactly how I feel about Smith multiple times seriously.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:40 PM   #799
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Alex Smith Fan is letting you make a fool of yourself. You should stop.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:41 PM   #800
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The Raiders traded for Matt Flynn giving up a 2014 5th round pick, and another late conditional round in 2015.

If Matt Flynn pans out for them, you guys are going to be crying in your soup or putting holes in your walls. One or the other.

I kind of doubt a 7th round draft choice will pan out, but he is Mike McCarthy trained and held Aaron Rodgers's clipboard for 4 years.

IMHO, I would much rather take a flier on Flynn for 2 late draft picks than waste 2 2nd rounders on Alex Smiff. If Flynn balls out for the Raiders, Dorsey is going to look pretty stupid.
I think Dorsey is aware of this. The Raiders GM and the Chiefs GM were both involved in scouting Flynn. When asked about Flynn Dorsey said, really good locker room guy. That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement. We'll see though.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:41 PM   #801
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There aren't really any Alex Smith trolls. Most of the new posters who came here because they like Alex Smith have been pretty reasonable, particularly in light of the immature response they've gotten from a particular group of planeteers who desperately cling to their victimhood.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #802
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I see the parallels. I also see the differences.

I don't happen to view Alex Smith as a backup like most here do. Matt Cassel? Yes, he was a backup. So were most of the other dudes we picked up from the 49ers.

Alex Smith, IMO, is a starting QB in the NFL. He is a guy that would not have been available under normal circumstances. Most coaches would have went back to their starter who was 6-2-1 after 9 games last season, and Kaepernick would have went back to the bench, once Smith would have came back.

Now will Smith light it up here? That's the 10 million dollar question.

And yes, I was on the Geno bandwagon. Apparently I was wrong.



Alex Smith is our QB this season. I am on board.

This is pretty much where I'm at on it. I'll add that since Harbaugh kind of jerked the rug out from under Smith and with all the hate around here for him I'm routing for him to prove them all wrong. Not saying he will but I'm pulling for the guy.
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They struggled to beat us last year with Cassel and Romeo.
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38-3 is struggling?...
Dude we were without Bowe, Lilja and Albert, plus Quinn is actually worse than Cassel (idk how that's possible).
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The Raiders traded for Matt Flynn giving up a 2014 5th round pick, and another late conditional round in 2015.

If Matt Flynn pans out for them, you guys are going to be crying in your soup or putting holes in your walls. One or the other.

I kind of doubt a 7th round draft choice will pan out, but he is Mike McCarthy trained and held Aaron Rodgers's clipboard for 4 years.

IMHO, I would much rather take a flier on Flynn for 2 late draft picks than waste 2 2nd rounders on Alex Smiff. If Flynn balls out for the Raiders, Dorsey is going to look pretty stupid.
Yes this and you can still have the option to draft a quarterback in the in one of the top two rounds. Gives more options and flexibility for the future. We would have our second or third round pick in 2014 to move up in the first round to grab our qbotf.
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Dude we were without Bowe, Lilja and Albert, plus Quinn is actually worse than Cassel (idk how that's possible).
So...they struggled to beat us?
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Trading away a second round pick for another teams backup to be our starting quarterback isn't a parallel?
Actually I was wrong. It isn't a parallel. We gave TWO seconds and didn't get vrabel thrown in...
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Dude we were without Bowe, Lilja and Albert, plus Quinn is actually worse than Cassel (idk how that's possible).
Right. We were in it to win it.



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Yes this and you can still have the option to draft a quarterback in the in one of the top two rounds. Gives more options and flexibility for the future.
I'm still glad we didn't go with Flynn... just because of the Dorsey connection. Don't really care about the draft picks... even if next years turns into a 2nd.
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Right. We were in it to win it.



Ha yup we folded that game. Not a shit was given that day. They were just ready for the season to be over and it showed.
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