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Old 05-06-2013, 08:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-08-2013, 07:25 AM   #841
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way to go Andy!
Worry about Denver's own shit drafts. The "one man gang" will be exposed again when his nuts shrivel up again in cold weather.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:28 AM   #842
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This team is going to be night and day different from the one they fielded the last several. years. It's not even remotely comparable. The philosophy and scheme changes are going to be pretty radically different than what we've seen. RRPP is dead. Bend, but don't break is dead.


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Old 05-08-2013, 07:31 AM   #843
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Ya I thought we had em there on the ropes for a second.
They'd have beaten Baltimore, Indy, and Denver at home with even Alex Smith level QB play last year. 3 playoff teams. This team is solid QB play away from making noise in the postseaso.

Don't be silly.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:34 AM   #844
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They didn't get to the SB with him as a starter because of a muffed punt in OT. How does that become he failed? JH wanted to run the read option with CK, it was a smart move, teams weren't ready for his style of play. I do think that teams will catch up a little more this year, and you'll see more games like the SB from CK.

I think it's silly to say Smith couldn't have gotten them to the SB last year.
Football games are decided by more than one play. Obviously, Smith should have done more (if he were capable, which he is not) during the rest of the game.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:38 AM   #845
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Football games are decided by more than one play. Obviously, Smith should have done more (if he were capable, which he is not) during the rest of the game.
Going 1-13 on 3rd downs was a huge reason the Niners lost to the Giants the year before. Smith has to deservedly take heat for that.

I do agree with Hootie though, it is silly to compare him to Cassel after the last 2 years. Hyperbole Planet. The difference in their respective levels of play has reached chasm levels.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:39 AM   #846
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No, he wasn't. Alex Smith failed to get the 49ers to a Super Bowl. That is a fact. I have another fun fact for you: The 49ers (correctly) thought their chances at a Super Bowl were better with another quarterback which is why Alex Smith was benched (again).

Alex Smith is not good enough to take any team anywhere. He will never play in a Super Bowl.
That's a lot of worthless absolutes you are throwing around. Your opinion is noted, but it's garbage speculation based on emotion.

This fumble away from the SB was 2011. Let me explain. SF was in YEAR ONE of building Harbaugh's WCO. You understand why this alone can be a struggle? Add to that... due to the lockout, teams with new regimes were put under extreme disadvantages by not being allowed to get things rolling early on. So Jim gives FA Alex the playbook and Camp Alex begins without the coaches. Alex teaches the basics to the players until the league allows the coaches to return to the players.

So you have a bunch of players just learning the basics... you have guys like VD admitting openly that he didn't really know what the heck he was doing until late in the year. You have multiple injuries to the WR corps prompting us to go into the playoffs with scrub backups like Brett Swain and Joe Hastings starting. Wonderful... right?

... and to others.. Harbaugh wanted Kaepernick starting as soon as possible. He used the concussion to make that happen.. despite the reality that Alex was in the top 5 of all QBs and we were 6-2. Most of the talking heads thought Jim was crazy to do this. Most thought it was flat-out "wrong" to. Most probably wouldn't have done it... Jim is just kinda crazy like that.

Alex didn't lose his job because he wasn't doing very well... he clearly was. He was tops in efficiency and rankings. Is he or was he asked to be dynamic? No, not really. He just had the unfortunate luck of there being his HC's dynamic chosen one waiting in the wings.

Even Joe Montana got replaced by Steve Young. Did this mean Joe couldn't hack it? or that just maybe there was a younger, more explosive QB waiting in the wings?

Use your ****ing heads, please. Condescending? Well **** yes! Who on Earth wouldn't be with some of the ignorant crap being spewed???
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:39 AM   #847
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The Raiders traded for Matt Flynn giving up a 2014 5th round pick, and another late conditional round in 2015.

If Matt Flynn pans out for them, you guys are going to be crying in your soup or putting holes in your walls. One or the other.

I kind of doubt a 7th round draft choice will pan out, but he is Mike McCarthy trained and held Aaron Rodgers's clipboard for 4 years.

IMHO, I would much rather take a flier on Flynn for 2 late draft picks than waste 2 2nd rounders on Alex Smiff. If Flynn balls out for the Raiders, Dorsey is going to look pretty stupid.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:43 AM   #848
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Enjoy being raped by the seachickens all year!
You do realize that your comment here is the equivalent of a 7 year old saying, "yeah? well my dad can beat your dad up!"

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I'm actively rooting for U$Cumbag Carrol's boys to fail this year. Tired of seeing them sucked off so much already.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:46 AM   #850
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You do realize that your comment here is the equivalent of a 7 year old saying, "yeah? well my dad can beat your dad up!"

Oh my....
You do realize you're trying to go into someone else's house and enforce your standards on them?

If you are looking for some tea and crupets you probably need to head somewhere else. That's not how this place rolls and you have about as much of a chance changing that as Alex Smith does of being the QB here in 4 years.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:49 AM   #851
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You do realize you're trying to go into someone else's house and enforce your standards on them?
Yeah, I get that. I really was hoping to step in here and have lots of civil and worthwhile discussions. Looks like a great forum. Too bad there's so much anger and immaturity to lessen it. Oh well.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:51 AM   #852
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Yeah, I get that. I really was hoping to step in here and have lots of civil and worthwhile discussions. Looks like a great forum. Too bad there's so much anger and immaturity to lessen it. Oh well.
So get the **** out or quit crying like a little bitch.
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So get the **** out or quit crying like a little bitch.
That's an interesting deflection and irony... considering that it is people like yourself that seem to revel only in crying like lil bitches and spewing hate. Clearly, that gives you a sense of internet power and pride. Well... hehe,,, do what ya gotta do.

Just so you know, it really just makes you look weak, childish, and pathetic. Like a spoiled child that doesn't get what he wants.. so he throws his feces at the wall and pounds his fists on the pillow. But if that's the way you want to rep your team... yourself... hey... go for it!

That much, I won't come "to your house and tell you how to act."

... but I will tell you how it makes you look..
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That's an interesting deflection and irony... considering that it is people like yourself that seem to revel only in crying like lil bitches and spewing hate. Clearly, that gives you a sense of internet power and pride. Well... hehe,,, do what ya gotta do.

Just so you know, it really just makes you look weak, childish, and pathetic. Like a spoiled child that doesn't get what he wants.. so he throws his feces at the wall and pounds his fists on the pillow. But if that's the way you want to rep your team... yourself... hey... go for it!

That much, I won't come "to your house and tell you how to act."

... but I will tell you how it makes you look..
At here you are still crying like a bitch about it YET AGAIN

Don't worry bro. That wounded vagina of yours will heal soon.


Mods. Can we get a name change to AllCapsDeb-NinersChiefs?
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At here you are still crying like a bitch about it YET AGAIN

Don't worry bro. That wounded vagina of yours will heal soon.
... and now we are just getting repetitive and boring. Again, you are spinning this as best you can to take the spotlight off of your own pussification. We get it. You have a vested interest in regaining some "forum cred" by deflecting your own crying bitch self onto someone else. Hey, can't blame you for trying, as you have made yourself a rather silly joke. It'll be alright. You seem to have quite a few fellow crybabies that can have your back and give you a false sense of credibility.
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