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Old 05-06-2013, 08:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:34 AM   #76
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:35 AM   #77
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Luck was a "generational talent," and the Chiefs weren't in a position to draft him.

Welp, there's always hope for the next generation.
We had the suck for luck campaign going, problem is no one was listening. The Colts did a great job of it though.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:35 AM   #78
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Luck was a "generational talent," and the Chiefs weren't in a position to draft him.

Welp, there's always hope for the next generation.
we avoided risk and went 8-8

what the **** else do you want?
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:36 AM   #79
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This team won 2 games last year. 6 win improvement.
So we traded for a 29 year old QB for 8-8? You're okay with that?
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Anyone who even remotely criticized the Redskins for what they traded for RGIII should be ****ing crucifying the Chiefs for the Alex Smith trade.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:38 AM   #81
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wrong...ass backwards...proven failure

the Chiefs need a franchise QB....going 8-8 at the expense of 2 seconds not only robs you of precious draft picks, but reduces the chances that you're in a postion to draft "the guy"...
Fantastic. We've located the problem.

Now: fix that in the 2013 offseason. Go ahead. I'll wait.

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I'm guessing you can't.

So if you can't get one, maybe you should expend the resources necessary to land yourself a solid option or two while you continue building the team.
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i shouldn't be amazed that Chiefs fans defend this idiocy...but even after decades of the same sad excuse making, it does surprise me

can you imagine if Carl had done a trade explicitly based on going 8-8?
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Yes cause Alex Smith is better then anything the 2013 QB draft class had to offer.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:40 AM   #84
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To your point, the overpayment is the consequence of no leverage(having Cassel, AS available, No legit Luck in the QB draft class, AND a New Regime that wants and has to win NOW) PERIOD !!

No leverage, you get hosed every time especially when you are in a position of MISSION CRITICAL NEED AT QB and your trading partner KNOWS IT !!
Then we should have gone for a cheaper option.

Alex Smith is better than Carson Palmer, Matt Flynn, and a few others.

There's no way in hell he's good enough for the price that Dorsey paid.

If the 49ers want to be dicks and jack up the price the way they did, Dorsey needed to tell them to go **** off and go with someone else. Especially since it's pretty apparent Alex Smith is not the long-term solution in KC. Matt Flynn serves the exact same goddamn function and could have been had for our 4th rounder.
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i shouldn't be amazed that Chiefs fans defend this idiocy...but even after decades of the same sad excuse making, it does surprise me

can you imagine if Carl had done a trade explicitly based on going 8-8?
The Chiefs are like groundhog day, every year I hear "I Got you Babe" playing as the season refreshes anew.
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Yes cause Alex Smith is better then anything the 2013 QB draft class had to offer.
That's a stupid reason.
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Fantastic. We've located the problem.

Now: fix that in the 2013 offseason. Go ahead. I'll wait.

...

I'm guessing you can't.

So if you can't get one, maybe you should expend the resources necessary to land yourself a solid option or two while you continue building the team.
of course I can, I can draft a QB and keep my picks

or I can sign any FA QB and keep my picks and draft a QB next year (with the 2nd I have to move up)

it's pretty ****ing simple to understand, and embarrassing to watch people defend

oh wait...drafting a QB would have been risky....unlike this..this was SAFE and SMART
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:41 AM   #88
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we avoided risk and went 8-8

what the **** else do you want?
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Matt Flynn for late-round picks in '14 and '15 with Geno in the second? Or Alex Smith for second rounders this year and next?
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Matt Flynn for late-round picks in '14 and '15 with Geno in the second? Or Alex Smith for second rounders this year and next?
Alex Smith by a mile.
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