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Old 05-06-2013, 08:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:42 AM   #91
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:43 AM   #92
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Yes cause Alex Smith is better then anything the 2013 QB draft class had to offer.
That doesn't ****ing matter. If you're aiming for 8-8, then I'd rather try to get there with literally any rookie QB than a 29 year old QB.

8-8 with a 29 year old QB should be a given. If the conditions were 10-6 or 11-5 I'd have no problem with this, but 8-8? That just shows how much confidence they have in Smith.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:43 AM   #93
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Fantastic. We've located the problem.

Now: fix that in the 2013 offseason. Go ahead. I'll wait.

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I'm guessing you can't.

So if you can't get one, maybe you should expend the resources necessary to land yourself a solid option or two while you continue building the team.
That's counterproductive as all hell.

I can't wait until 2014 when Bridgewater goes in the top 3 picks and everybody else "isn't a sure thing." All the hemming and hawing about "bad luck" and how the Chiefs lose at the wrong time always will be music to my ears.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:44 AM   #94
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:44 AM   #95
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As always, time will tell on this trade. For it to be a success, IMHO, the Chiefs can't finish below .500 for the next 5 years and Alex Smith is our QB. If he is a Trent Green QB, this trade is fine.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:45 AM   #96
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:46 AM   #97
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8-8 . . . . . really?!? ****!

At least it wasn't as bad as the Carson Palmer trade. That's about the ONLY solace I can take from this. ****!

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:46 AM   #98
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As always, time will tell on this trade. For it to be a success, IMHO, the Chiefs can't finish below .500 for the next 5 years and Alex Smith is our QB. If he is a Trent Green QB, this trade is fine.
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Seriously, Dorsey got bent over by the 9ers on this. Then the Dolphins called his bluff on the Albert trade. Then we traded for a ****ing fullback.

I dont think Dorsey knows Wtf he's doing when it comes to trades. His trades make Piolis trades seem genius.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:48 AM   #100
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Pioli did a terrible thing to this franchise. He turned the fans into a bunch of crack whores who will suck any dick just for a few grams of worthless regular season wins.

And I mean any dick at all. Alex ****ing Smith for crying out loud, people.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:51 AM   #101
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drafting a QB not named Luck is risky

trading multiple draft picks for a backup QB with an 8-8 win threshold is smart


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Old 05-06-2013, 09:54 AM   #102
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As always, time will tell on this trade. For it to be a success, IMHO, the Chiefs can't finish below .500 for the next 5 years and Alex Smith is our QB. If he is a Trent Green QB, this trade is fine.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:55 AM   #103
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:55 AM   #104
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Could have signed Kevin ****ing Kolb and gotten this team to 8-8 and not have to give up two second round picks. Oh well Alex Smith will end up costing Dorsey and Reid their jobs.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:58 AM   #105
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we placed a value on 8-8


think about that...we called up the 49ers and said our ambitions were to go 8-8 and we'd pay anything to do it....not the playoffs, 8-8

can you imagine the look on Baalke's face when Dorsey said, "Clark wants us to be 8-8, take as many draft picks as you want"..
You obviously feel that there is no difference between 2-14 and 8-8, and I can certainly understand that viewpoint. Neither one gets you into the playoffs, certainly not with any hope of a deep playoff run. If the ultimate goal of Reid and Dorsey is to simply go 8-8 every year and put as many butts in the seats as possible, then I'm right there with you.

But I think Reid and Dorsey are looking at this in two phases. The first phase is to simply lift the team up to respectability as quickly as possible. Let's face it: Scott ***** destroyed everything and alienated most of the fans. You may not think it's a significant improvement if this team goes 8-8 next year, but I respectfully disagree. The 2-14 debacle of last year was horrific. 8-8 next season is realistically achievable and would stop the hemorrhaging that turned this team into the laughingstock of the NFL. Obviously I would rather see the Chiefs improve from 2-14 to 14-2 next season, but that's just unrealistic. And based upon the apparent lack of real talent in this rookie class, the Chiefs sure as hell wouldn't go 14-2 next year witih a rookie quarterback as the starter.

The second phase will be to build a team for the future, which will include drafting a QBOTF.

Did they overpay for Alex Smith? Yes, obviously. But it sounds like the 49ers took advantage of a seller's market, and it's not really a reach to assume that the teams that wound up picking up the other retread quarterbacks were bidding against the Chiefs for Alex Smith. It was a really bad time to be in the market for a quarterback. Drue Brees wasn't sitting out there as a free agent. Andrew Luck wasn't sitting there waiting to be drafted. Reid and Dorsey made their decision and went with it.

I'm willing to give Reid and Dorsey the benefit of the doubt for now. I hope that the majority of the decisions they make turn out to be good ones, even if I don't necessarily love this one. Time will tell. It's going to take a hell of lot more time than a couple of months in their first offseason to evaluate whether they're total morons, competent, or total ****ing football geniuses. If they go 8-8 and 10-6 in their first two seasons AND they have a promising young quarterback on their roster, I would call that a damn good start.

I know, everything would be rainbows and unicorns if they had drafted Geno Smith and Smith turned out to be the next Aaron Rodgers. But Reid and Dorsey obviously didn't think that highly of Geno or any other quarterback in this draft. The fact that every other GM in the NFL agreed with them gives credibility to their decision making process.

It's fine to make risky draft choices. But if you draft someone just because you wish and hope they'll be great when every evaluation you do tells you otherwise, that's not a risky draft choice. It's a stupid one.

In other words, cool your jets. There will be plenty of time for wailing and gnashing of teeth if Reid and Dorsy fail. In the meantime, all you're doing is driving up each other's blood pressure and you're not accomplishing anything.
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