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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-09-2013, 09:34 AM   #1156
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What about the opposite ended fans who are so miserable every day and express it on here 24/7?

You guys should just do a mass suicide and end your misery.
Maybe you should go suck the stains out of an old pair of Elvis Grbac skivvies!
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:37 AM   #1157
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:42 AM   #1158
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He hasn't done shit lately and sure hasn't done shit in KC. Until he does so there is no reason to give him a free pass when he chooses to trade a 1st for a QB that has shown to be successful only when asked to just not **** it up.
This is basically what the "wait and see" approach is. He's not getting a free pass, but he also shouldn't be compared to Pioli until his QB and draft picks start showing it, which I hope doesn't happen.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:47 AM   #1159
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You are ****ing excited about them signing another in a long line of recycled QB failures from another team? The 4th one from the 9ers?
You are excited about a guy that has already shown his ceiling, and proven it isn't high enough?


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If he doesnt get the concusion- he starts all year. And being the 4th qb from the 9ers has Nothing to do with This signing. You are lumping Every QB failure in Chiefs history on Smith and that is Not his problem. People are bitching and bitching- but what was the solution?? Alex was a great signing. Considering our draft history in the second round-lol It was a steal.

If you look at all the moves- they are building a Very specific type of team- and Alex will be perfect for it (they hope

Yes I am very excited that we at least have a QB that gives us a chance to win.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:49 AM   #1160
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This here says a lot. Him and Cassel both just had success from handing the ball off and letting the run game take over.


Andy Reid wants a passing attack game plan and he brings in a guy that doesn't do well if he has to pass more than 25 times a game and is a basic game manager. Contradicts everything Andy Reid wants and preaches he will do.
I wish the media here had a pair of balls. I'd love to hear them ask something like

"Coach, history tells us that the more Alex Smith is asked to throw the ball the worse his number get and you're a guy with a history of throwing the ball all over the field. Do you plan to modify your system to Alex or do you think he's a guy that matured enough to be able to do more than the 49ers asked him to do the last few years?"
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:50 AM   #1161
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You are slipping- you called him Alex-lol

I am not going through every post but if there was a Better option than Alex Bad Ass Smith- you must know something the entire Chiefs organization doesn't know.

You are going to look pretty dumb calling everyone Homo's for rooting for the guy when he has a great year.

I have never seen any team sink as low as the Chiefs did last year. I am happy with the moves they made and will wait to see if they pan out before posting pages and pages of negative bullshit based on results from the past.

Peace Big cat- I will save you a spot on the Bandwagon on the way to the Playoffs. Go Chiefs!!!
Being excited about jumping on the 10-6 bandwagon is the same, to me, about being excited about banging the hot, airhead chick who was a dead fish in the sack in high school

Both seemed great in the 90s, when I was a teenager. Both were things that I got REALLY pumped up for (in the 90s). Both are things that now don't have quite the same appeal. That hot chick is still hot (probably), but she's also still an airhead who just lays there. I'm going to withhold emotional attachment in both cases because just like the older, wiser version of me now requires a little bit more from women to really get excited, I require a little bit more of my football team to really get excited.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:08 AM   #1162
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I wish the media here had a pair of balls. I'd love to hear them ask something like

"Coach, history tells us that the more Alex Smith is asked to throw the ball the worse his number get and you're a guy with a history of throwing the ball all over the field. Do you plan to modify your system to Alex or do you think he's a guy that matured enough to be able to do more than the 49ers asked him to do the last few years?"
That's an overly simplistic view of history. You haven't controlled for the effects of the quality of the team around him, the coaching, the offensive philosophy, or anything else.

On the one hand, you're all about focusing on Alex Smith's poor performance early in his career while downplaying the improvement later on, but on the other, you complain that Andy Reid hasn't done much lately (despite his fantastic accomplishments over his first decade or so with the Eagles). I find that interesting.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:12 AM   #1163
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That's an overly simplistic view of history. You haven't controlled for the effects of the quality of the team around him, the coaching, the offensive philosophy, or anything else.

On the one hand, you're all about focusing on Alex Smith's poor performance early in his career while downplaying the improvement later on, but on the other, you complain that Andy Reid hasn't done much lately (despite his fantastic accomplishments over his first decade or so with the Eagles). I find that interesting.
Those are all excuses Andy could provide in an answer to the question, but the question should be asked.

Your 2nd paragraphy shows you are missing my points entirely. I find that interesting.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:15 AM   #1164
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Being excited about jumping on the 10-6 bandwagon is the same, to me, about being excited about banging the hot, airhead chick who was a dead fish in the sack in high school

Both seemed great in the 90s, when I was a teenager. Both were things that I got REALLY pumped up for (in the 90s). Both are things that now don't have quite the same appeal. That hot chick is still hot (probably), but she's also still an airhead who just lays there. I'm going to withhold emotional attachment in both cases because just like the older, wiser version of me now requires a little bit more from women to really get excited, I require a little bit more of my football team to really get excited.


31 teams were losers last year. So I guess you shouldn't root for your team Until you Know for sure they are winning the SB? Not many Ravens fans thought they would win it all last year, but they did. 9ers fans realistically didnt think they would come within a few yards of winning it. If Super Cape doesn't choke at the end of the game they would have won it.

So yes I am excited that this team is no longer a National laughing stock. We have a very respected coach and GM and a former #1 pick as our qb now. We cut a lot of dead weight, resigned Bowe and have a #1 pick to beef up our line. There is a Lot to be happy about.

Call me a True fan- that is drinking the cool aid- but I don't see a reason for the hatred and negativity towards the chiefs. Maybe you should be a Ravens fan- that way you can say YOUR team won the superbowl- so that makes you a winner too-lol
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:18 AM   #1165
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Being excited about jumping on the 10-6 bandwagon is the same, to me, about being excited about banging the hot, airhead chick who was a dead fish in the sack in high school

Both seemed great in the 90s, when I was a teenager. Both were things that I got REALLY pumped up for (in the 90s). Both are things that now don't have quite the same appeal. That hot chick is still hot (probably), but she's also still an airhead who just lays there. I'm going to withhold emotional attachment in both cases because just like the older, wiser version of me now requires a little bit more from women to really get excited, I require a little bit more of my football team to really get excited.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:32 AM   #1167
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31 teams were losers last year. So I guess you shouldn't root for your team Until you Know for sure they are winning the SB? Not many Ravens fans thought they would win it all last year, but they did. 9ers fans realistically didnt think they would come within a few yards of winning it. If Super Cape doesn't choke at the end of the game they would have won it.

So yes I am excited that this team is no longer a National laughing stock. We have a very respected coach and GM and a former #1 pick as our qb now. We cut a lot of dead weight, resigned Bowe and have a #1 pick to beef up our line. There is a Lot to be happy about.

Call me a True fan- that is drinking the cool aid- but I don't see a reason for the hatred and negativity towards the chiefs. Maybe you should be a Ravens fan- that way you can say YOUR team won the superbowl- so that makes you a winner too-lol
Nah, I'll root for them. I always do. And I see no point in rooting for other teams.

I like everything the Chiefs did in the offseason EXCEPT for the price they paid for Alex Smith. That's the only thing I quibble with.

I'm going to need to SEE that work out and SEE his pattern broken before I will believe they can win anything of real significance with him.

I just have a hard time getting excited for a 10-6 season with a non-elite QB at the helm. If they go 10-6 and Alex Smith displays elite QB play in Andy Reid's offense, throwing the ball and carrying the offensive burden, making elite QB plays consistently against playoff teams, etc. I will get excited, because that's the formula that has won 18 of the past 20 Super Bowls. If the Chiefs' defense coalesces into an elite unit and Alex Smith is what we think he is, I can get a little excited, because that's the formula that has won the other two.

I just have low expectations that either will actually happen this year or next. And think our fanbase is too willing to accept 10-6 (or 9-7, 8-8 or 7-9) for the sake of being respectable and making the playoffs (even if that only results in a road playoff game they have little shot at winning).
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I just have a hard time getting excited for a 10-6 season with a non-elite QB at the helm.
How many elite QBs are there out there? which elite QB could KC have acquired?

Or are you saying that nothing could have excited you, since there were no elite QBs to be had?
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How many elite QBs are there out there? which elite QB could KC have acquired?

Or are you saying that nothing could have excited you, since there were no elite QBs to be had?
"Out there" as in available in free agency? Probably none, unless something completely unexpected and unlikely happens.

"Out there" as in the future? I think there are some guys, even in this "bad" QB draft, who have the tools to be elite QBs. Same thing with next year's draft, which is regarded more highly.

But you can't find an elite or near-elite (top 15 in league) QB without trying, and the price paid for Alex Smith severely limits the ability to try not only in this draft but also in the future.

That's my issue with the price.

If they'd snagged Alex Smith for a 3rd and a 4th or even two thirds, I wouldn't have a single problem with it.
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Nah, I'll root for them. I always do. And I see no point in rooting for other teams.

I like everything the Chiefs did in the offseason EXCEPT for the price they paid for Alex Smith. That's the only thing I quibble with.

I'm going to need to SEE that work out and SEE his pattern broken before I will believe they can win anything of real significance with him.

I just have a hard time getting excited for a 10-6 season with a non-elite QB at the helm. If they go 10-6 and Alex Smith displays elite QB play in Andy Reid's offense, throwing the ball and carrying the offensive burden, making elite QB plays consistently against playoff teams, etc. I will get excited, because that's the formula that has won 18 of the past 20 Super Bowls. If the Chiefs' defense coalesces into an elite unit and Alex Smith is what we think he is, I can get a little excited, because that's the formula that has won the other two.

I just have low expectations that either will actually happen this year or next. And think our fanbase is too willing to accept 10-6 (or 9-7, 8-8 or 7-9) for the sake of being respectable and making the playoffs (even if that only results in a road playoff game they have little shot at winning).
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