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Old 05-08-2013, 08:17 AM  
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Will Sen. Ted Cruz ignite the next "birther" controversy?

I like a lot of what Sen Cruz says and wondered about a potential run for President so last night I looked up his bio on Wiki. Immediately I noticed a big problem: Sen Cruz wasn't born in America. For anyone who who has read the Constitution, you know what that means for Ted's chances. However the WaPo answers the question in greater detail here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...add_story.html



Now, suppose he is deemed eligible. Will the Left savage Cruz and claim he's inelibigle based on a "birther" controversy? They said anyone who did the same to Obama was a crazed paranoid nutball but this was AFTER they spent early 2008 questioning and disputing John McCain's eligibility (he was born in Panama). Will they make up their minds on this topic?



MSNBC (D-Network) panel recently discussed Cruz' eligibility here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOrQDiMDg4E
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:38 PM   #46
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The guys smart. There is no doubting that. And as a Democrat, it is fine with me if he runs. Having been born in a territory (DC), I am all inclusive of narrowly interpreting the anti-Hamilton qualification for the Presidency. It served its purpose. Let it die.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:27 PM   #47
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The guys smart. There is no doubting that. And as a Democrat, it is fine with me if he runs. Having been born in a territory (DC), I am all inclusive of narrowly interpreting the anti-Hamilton qualification for the Presidency. It served its purpose. Let it die.

I think you're right, but I wonder when the line gets drawn. A few years ago, there were some whackos in the GOP that were pimping the Governator as a potential Prez candidate. They suggested trying to overturn the citizen requirement in the law. Some dopes in the GOP have even suggested overturning it might appeal to Hispanics as a softening on immigration.


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Old 05-09-2013, 03:30 PM   #48
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Cruz is a ridiculously great debater and pretty damn smart. It would be incredibly stupid to underestimate him at this point. He's completely unproven right now but that cuts both ways.
Being a great debater and smart is not enough to overcome the extreme right wing social conservatism he states at every opportunity. The national electorate is not ready nor in my opinion ever be ready again to elect a social conservative to the Presidency.
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I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:32 PM   #49
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Being a great debater and smart is not enough to overcome the extreme right wing social conservatism he states at every opportunity. The national electorate is not ready nor in my opinion ever be ready again to elect a social conservative to the Presidency.
George Bush wasn't a Socon?
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:48 PM   #50
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I think every Republican should double down on the birther stuff. Spend some real time getting to the bottom of it.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:54 PM   #51
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George Bush wasn't a Socon?
I was talking about 2016 and beyond.

I just don't see a scenario where the majority of America will want to elect a president who vows to ban abortion or make it more difficult, ban gay marriage, put don't ask/don't tell in place, defund planned parenthood, ban the plan b prescription pill etc. etc.
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I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:38 PM   #52
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You are one dumb son of a bitch. Ted Cruz and possible presidential run
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:40 PM   #53
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:49 PM   #54
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The Dems were the first known "birthers":

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Old 08-14-2013, 07:54 AM   #55
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I was talking about 2016 and beyond.

I just don't see a scenario where the majority of America will want to elect a president who vows to ban abortion or make it more difficult, ban gay marriage, put don't ask/don't tell in place, defund planned parenthood, ban the plan b prescription pill etc. etc.
The GOP either rebrands itself as a party of individual liberty that applies sound fiscal practices to promoting private business with as little favor as possible and applying frugal business principles to government or it becomes a regional party until it dies. Individual behaviors cannot be the business of government. It's up to the people themselves to promote healthy change without wielding the club of government, IMHO.
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Individual behaviors cannot be the business of government. It's up to the people themselves to promote healthy chance without wielding the club of government, IMHO.
This is a very simplistic view of the world. Government and tax policy can (and should) be used to promote desired behavior. Didn't Reagan always teach that when you subsidize something you get more of it? So why not subsidize that which you want to occur?

There's a segment of our society that cannot and will not live responsibly. Since the welfare state is here to stay it's impossible to dismantle it. The GOP can't even beat Obama in a bad economy so there's little chance the "no government" view is going to have a chance.
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