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Old 05-08-2013, 12:32 PM  
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PFF Ranks top 101 players of 2012 and No Jamaal Charles

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Old 05-09-2013, 09:17 AM   #106
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Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:31 AM   #107
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You couldn't be more wrong it's ridiculous. Besides even if you weren't, I'd take the guy that can get you the game breaking run anyday over some slug plodding for 2-3. Those turds are a dime a dozen.
Wrong about what?

I'm not saying I want a dime a dozen plodder. Are you saying you don't want better first down production or more first downs?
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:32 AM   #108
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You don't make any sense. If you take way JC's best 20 carries, you have to do that to EVERY RB.

Let's say a guy averages 4YPC and without his long runs goes down to 3.5 because he's consistently mediocre . You'd take that over JC's 6 YPC dropping to 3.7???????
What are you talking about?
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:34 AM   #109
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Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.
Drew's 2012 stats: 422/670. 63% completions. 5,177 yards. 323.6 yards per game. 43 touchdowns and 19 interceptions. QB rating of 96.3.

Matt Ryan's stats: 422/615. 68.6% completions. 4,719 yards. 294.9 yards per game. 32 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. QB rating of 99.1.
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:59 AM   #110
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:22 PM   #111
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Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:37 PM   #112
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:45 PM   #113
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:06 PM   #114
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Wrong about what?

I'm not saying I want a dime a dozen plodder. Are you saying you don't want better first down production or more first downs?
I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:20 PM   #115
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I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.
OK. I don't know what you were talking about either.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:21 PM   #116
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You don't make any sense. If you take way JC's best 20 carries, you have to do that to EVERY RB.

Let's say a guy averages 4YPC and without his long runs goes down to 3.5 because he's consistently mediocre . You'd take that over JC's 6 YPC dropping to 3.7???????
I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed?

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Old 05-09-2013, 01:22 PM   #117
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I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.
OK. I don't know what you were talking about either. Jamaal Charles is a fantastic RB, boom or bust concern not withstanding.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:25 PM   #118
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I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed?

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I did it for Adrian Peterson. His averaged dropped to 3.8. I might do it for Foster too cause I think him, AP and Charles are the best backs in the league.

But yeah doing it for AP proved that if you take the top ~20 carries from any back their YPC is going to drop dramatically.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:26 PM   #120
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So, 33.6 ypc over those 19 carries. That tells me that he's providing slightly more than one game-changing play per game. That's what elite players do.
Very good argument here.
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