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Old 05-08-2013, 09:08 PM  
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Singer Lauryn Hill Blames Slavery For Not Paying Her Taxes

It never ends does it?

http://hiphopwired.com/2013/05/08/la...es-on-slavery/

I am a child of former slaves who had a system imposed on them, the New Jersey native told U.S. Magistrate Madeline Cox Arleo.I had an economic system imposed on me. Someone did the math, and it came to around $600 million. And I sit here before you trying to figure out how to pay a tax debt?
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:27 PM   #121
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Then all the proceeds from however many albums it takes to pay it off can go to the IRS. Equal representation under the law, ignorance of the law is no excuse, and stupidity is no defense.

Maybe she can get a loan and pay it back right now..... oh wait that would be slavery to a bank.


Her problem is the same as Vince Young, Mike Tyson and everyone else who when they finally made money did zero planning to protect it and make it grow.

It was all bling bling bling look at me I'm a pop star.

**** that.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:35 PM   #122
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I'm aware of all of these. Now, please explain how "the system is stacked against them" and why.
This is a complex issue. There is no simple answer.

You can see that there is an issue (as evidenced by sapho's statistics). A historical perspective has been offered as to why these issues exist.

Not sure what else you want....
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:40 PM   #123
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This is a complex issue. There is no simple answer.

You can see that there is an issue (as evidenced by sapho's statistics). A historical perspective has been offered as to why these issues exist.

Not sure what else you want....
I'm aware of the issues and the statistics. I'm just not aware of how or what "the system being stacked against them" means. Based on the illegality of racial discrimination, it would seem that our historical racial slavery should become less and less of an excuse as time goes on, no?
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:40 PM   #124
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Blacks make up 12% of the US population and 38% of the federal prison population, while whites make up 72.4% of the population and only 34% of the federal prison population. This is after a severe drop over the last decade for incarcerated blacks.

You can read about the advancement here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/us...hows.html?_r=0

Interestingly enough, another article came out on 2.27.13.

This one says that the wealth gap between blacks and whites has nearly tripled in the last 25 years.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...owing/1948899/

Blacks also have more than twice the high school drop out rate than whites.

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d...s/dt10_113.asp

so, you either think these facts are due to blacks being categorically inferior to whites or it is due to a system that is stacked against them.

EDIT: These were the first three things off the top of my head. I'm sure...
voting rates.
Percentage in elected office.
Likelihood of being a victim of violent crime.
Poverty rate.
life span
college degrees
higher degrees

and incalculable other conditions vastly favor whites.
Why must the ratio of "percentage of population" to "bad things" be the same for every demographic subgroup?
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:50 PM   #125
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I'm aware of the issues and the statistics. I'm just not aware of how or what "the system being stacked against them" means. Based on the illegality of racial discrimination, it would seem that our historical racial slavery should become less and less of an excuse as time goes on, no?
How many times does it need to be said?? We are two generations removed from the Civil Rights Movement. A magic button wasn't pressed to make everybody not racist anymore and put everybody on equal footing. All of societies ills didn't just vanish. Seriously, man. Do you live in a vacuum?

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Why must the ratio of "percentage of population" to "bad things" be the same for every demographic subgroup?
Those disparities are what statisticians would call "statistically significant". Which basically says "we need to analyze this" to a statistician.

So, why do these disparities exist? Coincidence? Is it because blacks are just bad people? Or could the answer be much more complex? What do you think? Seriously, what do you think? I want to know.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:52 PM   #126
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How many times does it need to be said?? We are two generations removed from the Civil Rights Movement. A magic button wasn't pressed to make everybody not racist anymore and put everybody on equal footing. All of societies ills didn't just vanish. Seriously, man. Do you live in a vacuum?
Again, I'm just not aware of how or what "the system being stacked against them" means. You didn't write that, but if you agree with it, I'd like hear your opinion on the specifics.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:54 PM   #127
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Why must the ratio of "percentage of population" to "bad things" be the same for every demographic subgroup?
So who's fault is it that black kids drop out of school? Whitey's?

It's the white man's fault because they're in prison?

I guess it's the white mans fault that they have babies and don't raise em.

I guess it's the white mans fault that some of them are on welfare.

They made these choices, they can live with it.
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So, why do these disparities exist? Coincidence? Is it because blacks are just bad people? Or could the answer be much more complex? What do you think? Seriously, what do you think? I want to know.
I think it's pretty clear that Black people have a propensity to commit crimes that land them in jail at a higher rate than White people.
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I think it's pretty clear that Black people have a propensity to commit crimes that land them in jail at a higher rate than White people.

That and wearing their pants around their ****ing ankles gives them street cred.
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Those disparities are what statisticians would call "statistically significant". Which basically says "we need to analyze this" to a statistician.

So, why do these disparities exist? Coincidence? Is it because blacks are just bad people? Or could the answer be much more complex? What do you think? Seriously, what do you think? I want to know.
I don't know! Why do white people dance badly?

Also, even if these problems do stem from slavery, how in the hell is giving them money going to fix it? How is affirmative action going to fix it? Answer: It's not. It gives no stimulus to change the behaviors causing the problem in the first place. I think that can only be cured over time.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:06 PM   #131
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Again, I'm just not aware of how or what "the system being stacked against them" means. You didn't write that, but if you agree with it, I'd like hear your opinion on the specifics.
Ok. I have said that this is a complex issue with a myriad of contributing factors.

But you want specifics...

Many urban blacks do not have access to quality education at their inner city public schools. That statement is specific.

Now, you would probably like to know why inner city schools are bad. Well, there is a very complex answer with a myriad of contributing factors. Many of those factors stem from the historical issues which we have discussed.
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I don't know! Why do white people dance badly?
No idea what you're talking about.

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Ok. I have said that this is a complex issue with a myriad of contributing factors.

But you want specifics...

Many urban blacks do not have access to quality education at their inner city public schools. That statement is specific.

Now, you would probably like to know why inner city schools are bad. Well, there is a very complex answer with a myriad of contributing factors. Many of those factors stem from the historical issues which we have discussed.
I can tell you this much - if anyone's waiting for the government or government money to get them out of a bad situation they're wasting their time.
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Ok. I have said that this is a complex issue with a myriad of contributing factors.

But you want specifics...

Many urban blacks do not have access to quality education at their inner city public schools. That statement is specific.

Now, you would probably like to know why inner city schools are bad. Well, there is a very complex answer with a myriad of contributing factors. Many of those factors stem from the historical issues which we have discussed.
Thanks. Why or how is slavery or racism responsible for many inner city schools being crappy?
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