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Old 05-09-2013, 08:55 AM  
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Mike Catapano reminds me of Jared Allen.

Against the inferior competition of the Ivy League, sure (albeit an Ivy League where he racked up 12 sacks and was the league's DPOTY), but nonetheless.

Dismissing him because of his league would fit in with conventional wisdom, but we know that the best college passrushers are almost always (a.) prolific in their last year, (b.) have a good weight/speed/strength combo, and (c.) have a good wingspan, preferably 33" or longer.

Catapano was prolific last year with 12 sacks. 6'4", 271 lbs with 4.75 speed -- very nice. 33 reps, ridiculous. 33 3/4" arm length, more than adequate.

Plays a lot like Jared Allen. Not a lot of technique (was Allen ever a technique guy), total relentless mean streak. Combine that with his measurables, and we could be doing alright here.

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Old 05-09-2013, 03:41 PM   #61
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I think Paul Kruger is a reasonable roof to expect out of him.

I know... they're both white guys. It's still a reasonable projection.
that I could imagine.... I just don't think people appreciate how good JA is.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:49 PM   #62
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I don't think he's saying he's Jared Allen reborn. I think he's saying that as an unheralded low round pick from a small (in football terms) school, and because of some physical similarities, Catapano reminds him of Allen. Which would I think be understandable for someone who follows the Chiefs drafts closely. And who knows what Catapano is going to be. At this point in Jared Allen's career, plenty of us were questioning whether he'd even make the roster as a rookie, or if he did, whether he'd ever do anything but long snap. So I'd say there's some similarities if you look at it in that sense, as well.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:05 PM   #63
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Hey if he works out I'm really happy for it. I hope this draft class goes in the history books as the only one with 5 HOF players in it. Its just looks like a mushy bag of shit at the moment.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:09 PM   #64
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:18 PM   #65
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He could be Jared Allen, but it's more likely he's Brian Johnston.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:47 PM   #66
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:40 PM   #69
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Against the inferior competition of the Ivy League, sure (albeit an Ivy League where he racked up 12 sacks and was the league's DPOTY), but nonetheless.

Dismissing him because of his league would fit in with conventional wisdom, but we know that the best college passrushers are almost always (a.) prolific in their last year, (b.) have a good weight/speed/strength combo, and (c.) have a good wingspan, preferably 33" or longer.

Catapano was prolific last year with 12 sacks. 6'4", 271 lbs with 4.75 speed -- very nice. 33 reps, ridiculous. 33 3/4" arm length, more than adequate.

Plays a lot like Jared Allen. Not a lot of technique (was Allen ever a technique guy), total relentless mean streak. Combine that with his measurables, and we could be doing alright here.

WTF are you talking about?

Jared Allen is VERY much a technique guy. Google the pass rushing article SI wrote about top sack artists and their moves a few years ago. Allen is cited as being a guy that can sack a QB with any of 4 different moves.

He was considered the best technician currently playing (around 2010).

Jared Allen is NOT gifted in edge speed. Allen is a leverage rusher. I remember him, b/c his bench press numbers were so low at the combine. I'm 5'7 and 170lbs and I could bench 225lbs more times than he did at the combine (at the time). Something like 13 reps.

When he got to camp, Dick Vermeil commented how "strong" Jared Allen was. The only way both of those things can be true is that Allen is VERY good at using balance and leverage. He's not bench press strong but he plays strong.

Note: Allen had 9 sacks as a rookie.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:17 PM   #70
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:37 PM   #71
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Honestly Catapano looks like a better prospect than Johnston and for God sake a lot better Gabe Miller. I never liked Miller's film coming out of Oregon State.

As mentioned, Jared Allen wasn't all-world coming out of college. So comparing Catapano to Allen coming out of college isn't unreasonable. Heck most of us didn't even expect Allen to amount to much entering his rookie season.

In the end if Catapano can turn into a quality back-up that is a good enough for me. Our depth at OLB isn't that good until proven otherwise.
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WTF are you talking about?

Jared Allen is VERY much a technique guy. Google the pass rushing article SI wrote about top sack artists and their moves a few years ago. Allen is cited as being a guy that can sack a QB with any of 4 different moves.

He was considered the best technician currently playing (around 2010).

Jared Allen is NOT gifted in edge speed. Allen is a leverage rusher. I remember him, b/c his bench press numbers were so low at the combine. I'm 5'7 and 170lbs and I could bench 225lbs more times than he did at the combine (at the time). Something like 13 reps.

When he got to camp, Dick Vermeil commented how "strong" Jared Allen was. The only way both of those things can be true is that Allen is VERY good at using balance and leverage. He's not bench press strong but he plays strong.

Note: Allen had 9 sacks as a rookie.
Good points to bring up about Allen. He is a technique guy for sure. Catapano seems to be very coachable and actually sought out off season help on his own traveling to Chuck Smith's pass rushing camp in Georgia for a month in off season to improve his pass rushing (shows commitment). He dropped 20 lbs (from 290 to 270) learned technique from a pro pass rushing coach and more than doubled his sack total from Junior to Senior year missing all time single season Ivy League sack record by one sack and winning defensive player of the year in his league. That means something. Its quite obvious Catapano is a physical freak of nature, thats a LEAN and athletic 270 lbs! Has been reported to have an unmatched work ethic and a high ceiling, thats a good combo. Some more quality coaching and this guy may end up being the steal of this years draft. The writing is on the wall. The more you read about him the more intriguing he becomes.
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