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Old 05-27-2013, 01:06 AM  
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Monsanto Wins Fight to Take Away State Food Labeling Rights

Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) fought hard to give his state and others the right to label GMO foods, but faced nonsensical opposition from Monsanto-bought Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.). Did reason win?


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Old 05-27-2013, 07:55 AM   #2
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More than a business right, labeling is about giving consumers the right to know what they are consuming. Regardless of where you stand on the GMO debate, consumers have the right to know and make a decision based on what they know.
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:32 AM   #3
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More than a business right, labeling is about giving consumers the right to know what they are consuming. Regardless of where you stand on the GMO debate, consumers have the right to know and make a decision based on what they know.
we obviously do not have that right
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:38 AM   #4
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we obviously do not have that right
It's a damn shame too. Food labeling is one of the most frustrating things for me and I sincerely believe our health situation would be dramatically better with better labeling. For some reason, big food has escaped scrutiny and our labels are really misleading.

But in other industries, we've gotten better. Infomercials are the big one. You don't see as many garbage "as seen on TV" products as you used to and a lot of that is because of stricter advertising regulation.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:02 AM   #5
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"Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who proposed the amendment to the Farm Bill, said it would have protected states that pass GMO labeling requirements from lawsuits by biotech companies like Monsanto that engineer the seeds, the Associated Press reports."


It did not require labeling at all.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:12 PM   #6
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More than a business right, labeling is about giving consumers the right to know what they are consuming. Regardless of where you stand on the GMO debate, consumers have the right to know and make a decision based on what they know.
I actually agree with you here. This is just govt being used by a special interest to protect their dominance in the market.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:13 PM   #7
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It's a damn shame too. Food labeling is one of the most frustrating things for me and I sincerely believe our health situation would be dramatically better with better labeling. For some reason, big food has escaped scrutiny and our labels are really misleading.

But in other industries, we've gotten better. Infomercials are the big one. You don't see as many garbage "as seen on TV" products as you used to and a lot of that is because of stricter advertising regulation.
Advertising has been one of the most highly regulated industries for a long time. Political advertising is exempt from the same regulations.
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:43 PM   #8
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Considering that there has been no nutritional difference found between genetically modified and "non-genetically modified"* food. I don't see where the government should be able to require a producer to disclose whether the food is GMO or not.

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Old 05-27-2013, 06:19 PM   #9
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I actually agree with you here. This is just govt being used by a special interest to protect their dominance in the market.
So, you're departing from your free-market principles here? If the market demands food labeling, then producers will follow, right?
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:09 AM   #10
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Considering that there has been no nutritional difference found between genetically modified and "non-genetically modified"* food. I don't see where the government should be able to require a producer to disclose whether the food is GMO or not.


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Old 05-28-2013, 09:22 AM   #11
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It's a damn shame too. Food labeling is one of the most frustrating things for me and I sincerely believe our health situation would be dramatically better with better labeling. For some reason, big food has escaped scrutiny and our labels are really misleading.

But in other industries, we've gotten better. Infomercials are the big one. You don't see as many garbage "as seen on TV" products as you used to and a lot of that is because of stricter advertising regulation.
Better labeling would cause a dramatic increase in health? ... What? The overwhelming majority of Americans don't give two shits about what nasty shit they stuff into their maws. All the pertinent information that makes a difference to human health, is there already. There's never been any legitimate proof that GMO crops have any negative effects on human health at all. So, no.. "Our heath situation" wouldn't be any different. Besides, we've been eating GMOs for several decades. Forced labeling would just raise the prices, and wouldn't make any difference in health at all. You'd have to prove some kind of danger from GMOs, before demanding billions of dollars be spent to change labeling.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:55 AM   #12
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I actually agree with you here. This is just govt being used by a special interest to protect their dominance in the market.
proof?

GMO's have been tested more than any other food products in the food chain......you know the results, you have read some of them here....No proof that GM foods pose ANY health risk.

Labeling is preferred by the oganics in the world who would like to charge you even more for the food they grow in manure.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #13
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proof?

GMO's have been tested more than any other food products in the food chain......you know the results, you have read some of them here....No proof that GM foods pose ANY health risk.

Labeling is preferred by the oganics in the world who would like to charge you even more for the food they grow in manure.
There are plenty of studies done that show contrary to what you're stating. They are simply not done by the same group pushing GMO's.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:17 AM   #14
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Considering that there has been no nutritional difference found between genetically modified and "non-genetically modified"* food. I don't see where the government should be able to require a producer to disclose whether the food is GMO or not.
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There are plenty of studies done that show contrary to what you're stating. They are simply not done by the same group pushing GMO's.
Present them, and let's see...
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