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Old 05-10-2013, 11:02 AM  
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IRS Admits it Targeted Conservative Groups

The complaints by conservatives that they were being singled out for scrutiny by the IRS turns out to be true.

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:59 PM   #181
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Yeah, Reagan should have been impeached. I have no problem saying that at all. I have a feeling if we got to the truth of most politicians, we wouldn't let them walk our dogs, much less run the country. Which is why I am for smaller, local government.
Kind of agree, but I don't really think that the guys who say they're for smaller local government are any more actually for that than the guys who say they're looking out for the poor and defenseless. It's all rhetoric while the people get ****ed.
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:05 PM   #182
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Kind of agree, but I don't really think that the guys who say they're for smaller local government are any more actually for that than the guys who say they're looking out for the poor and defenseless. It's all rhetoric while the people get ****ed.
If you're saying that the whole two party system is a big sham to keep the people arguing while the people in power entrench and enrich themselves, I agree.
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:11 PM   #183
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The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Destroying the American Dream

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Old 05-14-2013, 11:19 PM   #184
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The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Destroying the American Dream

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Old 05-15-2013, 07:47 AM   #185
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Under IRS law, political organizations cannot be tax-exempt, so all applicants who used the words "Tea Party" or "Patriot" were required to prove in great detail they were a social welfare organization to qualify.

Organizations are eligible for tax-exempt status if they are "social welfare groups," NPR's Brian Naylor reported on Morning Edition. But they are not eligible for that status if they engage in a substantial amount of political activity.


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Old 05-15-2013, 08:18 AM   #186
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Wanna bet? You don't think the right just got an issue with the American people to campaign on for 2014? Tax reform just shot to the top of the conservative play list. This touches every conservative organization that has ever been put under any amount of scrutiny by the IRS. Billy Graham is out talking about his problems with the IRS right now. There's never been this kind of red meat served up by government to tax conservatives in my lifetime. You're absolutely tone deaf if you don't think that this is going to open up a tax discussion unlike we've ever seen in our lifetime. This is the wrong issue at the wrong time for big-tax progressives. This frames income tax with the first amendment discussion and gives it plenty of fuel to burn.

For as bright a guy as you are, you're not so politically savvy. You apparently don't see the political tectonic plates and what they mean until well after they have shifted. That's not uncommon. A lot of people don't understand this stuff until it's spelled out for them by cable news.

Everything you see you see through the eyes of your wishful thinking. From Ron Paul being a legitimate Presidential contender to this.

I don't do stupid internet bets, but let's just say I'm pretty damn confident we'll still have an income tax based revenue system come, say, 2018.

Now you said "light the fuse" for a consumption based or flat tax system. If all you're saying is that advocates will PUSH for those things, then that I won't argue about. They're about due anyway.

And for the record I do think we need serious tax reform, though I don't favor a flat tax.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:20 AM   #187
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If the allegations are true, Benghazi makes Watergate look like some kid stole a bicycle.

Can we be specific on this? What allegations, exactly, are you referring to. It seems the facts are settling out on this and I'm not seeing much that's very serious. While there were communication errors, I haven't seen a darn thing anyone did wrong that, if done right, was likely to save a single life of any of the folks we lost in Benghazi.
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:10 PM   #188
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If he lied under oath absolutely. After it all came out it's the reason I voted for Perot instead of Bush 41 the second time.
He did. Congress and Reagan had private testimony that was sworn and he blatantly lied that all these new weapons that the Sandinista's had were from the USA. But presidents lie all the time. Just some are bigger lies than others and most dont get caught.
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From what I'm reading from your posts I doubt you'd do the same thing in voting for Romney if the truth on Benghazi had come out in September. Nothing you've posted so far tells that anyway
I know exactly what happened in Benghazi. I just don't see the outrage. Who changed the talking points? That = Watergate? Come on man.

What happened at the IRS was outrageous and goes against how government should operate. People need to be fired and or go to jail is laws were broke.

Until evidence shows up that someone or some organization controlled by the President outside of the IRS put pressure on them to to what they did....... thats not Watergate either.
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:25 PM   #189
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Prom King just made a statement about getting to the bottom of the IRS scandel. Hope he works as hard on it as he did Benghazi
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I know exactly what happened in Benghazi. I just don't see the outrage. Who changed the talking points? That = Watergate? Come on man.
Covering up your incompetence by lying to the public about what really happened when Americans were killed with the sole purpose of winning an election at least equals Watergate. You "come on".
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:25 PM   #195
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Covering up your incompetence by lying to the public about what really happened when Americans were killed with the sole purpose of winning an election at least equals Watergate. You "come on".
GEEEZZZ thats not what happened. Thats your theory based on public news reports.

And quit being so damn naive and idealistic. I'm the dopey dreamer. Your the hard bitten realist.
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