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Old 05-14-2013, 09:57 AM  
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2013 Sandbox Simulations League 1 Thread

Figured creating a new thread for the upcoming league 1 season would probably help consolidate discussion.

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:39 PM   #1576
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Yeah it would have been nice if Lardarius Webb, Micheal Spurlock, Deji Karim, Travis Benjamin or Ras-I Dowling could have returned kicks or punts.

I have literally a half dozen KR/PR on my team.

I need this explained.

I mean, I understand we're testing and all, but to not have the option to select those guys - AND THEN - to lose a game by 3, mainly because of my KR/PR performance?

Some of those guys are on the roster just to keep Street FAs from handling that stuff.

That will upset anyone who puts any time or effort in the game.

*This is not specific bitching, just giving feedback on frustration caused by certain elements of the gameplay. ( It was stated that the programming chooses the best KR/PR on your roster, but did not in this case.)
Of all the players that return punts or kicks in the NFL in a given year, only a few of them return enough kicks to have something that could be considered a large enough sample size to treat as representative. Those returners that have a sufficient number of returns, are included in the database by name, and you get the specific stats of that player. I take all of the other players who have returned a smaller number of punts or kicks and lump them together and generate statistics that represent "any old joe" on your roster that might be pressed into service returning kicks or punts. Those are the stats that are used for "free agent".

Of the players you listed, none of them returned more than 9 punts or kicks the entire year, so they're NFL team didn't exactly view them as difference makers in the return game. So the program basically determined that they were examples of "any old joe" and put one of them back there (unnamed) to return the kick/punt.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:40 PM   #1577
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Sorry to be demanding, but another interesting wrinkle would be a pre-snap 'read'.

In other words, the play would start by saying what formation it's run out of. I'm curious to see if CJ can run from a 4-wide (really, he should be able to; he's a perfect fit for picking on a Dime defense). That said, I'll have no way of knowing if/when it's successful and if it's working or not.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:45 PM   #1578
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For Some Reason P Matt Dodge was replaced by Free Agent, even though he was available week 1.
Matt Dodge hasn't been on an NFL roster since 2010.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:51 PM   #1579
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Matt Dodge hasn't been on an NFL roster since 2010.
So Matt Dodge actually is "free agent".
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:09 PM   #1580
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Thanks for reporting these issues. I'll look into them.
Well I think I figured out the Sherels thing. He is showing as unavailable for week 1, even though every resource I can find lists him as active for all 16 games.

I guess we'll see if he returns kicks next week.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:11 PM   #1581
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1. I am keeping CB Marcus Sherels on my roster purely as a return man. He has decent stats and was pretty highly rated by PFF. But the sim has punts being returned by Danny Amendola and kicks being returned by a free agent. Amendola really didn't return many punts last year, and Sherels stats are better pretty much across the board. What's the deal there?
Marcus Sherels was not available in week 1 inside Sandbox. I note that in reality he played in all 16 games, but the algorithm we use had him out in week 1.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:14 PM   #1582
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I had a bid on a free agent that apparently got nixed by the "freeze".. I lose that money still? Also, have a trade worked out to send a player to another team (that waited until Free Agency was over)... now we are unable to complete the trade...

Players with pending bids on them will eventually be awarded to the last bidding teams (when the clock runs out). I didn't have time to program a more graceful way of ending free agency.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:23 PM   #1583
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Chris Johnson played for 2 teams; Portland and Clearwater.

He got traded from Portland to Clearwater the night before, so it's probably a glitch that will clear itself up but figured I'd point it out (before I have to play Portland on Wed...)
He is only on Clearwater's roster now.

One of the reason that trades are not allowed mid-season. Sure it could be programmed, but it's just a whole lot less complicated to freeze rosters.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:26 PM   #1584
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Players with pending bids on them will eventually be awarded to the last bidding teams (when the clock runs out). I didn't have time to program a more graceful way of ending free agency.
Does this mean in a day or two the guy I had a bid on will show up on my roster?
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:27 PM   #1585
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Does this mean in a day or two the guy I had a bid on will show up on my roster?
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:45 PM   #1586
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Cool. That doesn't jack with your simulations? The guy was a backup anyway.

Are you planning on including some kind of "special teams coverage" code in the future that analyzes backup players? I'm guessing right now the only thing that determines the outcome of special teams play is the quality of punters/kickers vs returners.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:03 PM   #1587
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Cool. That doesn't jack with your simulations? The guy was a backup anyway.

Are you planning on including some kind of "special teams coverage" code in the future that analyzes backup players? I'm guessing right now the only thing that determines the outcome of special teams play is the quality of punters/kickers vs returners.
I had signed Matthew Slater to be a STs ace/cover man before I decided I probably agreed with you; I can't imagine the sim's that advanced just yet. So I ended up cutting him to keep Underwood on the squad.

But it would certainly make things more interesting.
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Don't know if it's a bug or not, but when I go to defensive gameplan the "safety in the box" togged switch keeps changing back to yes.

I want it set to no.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:13 PM   #1589
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Matt Dodge hasn't been on an NFL roster since 2010.
Well that sucks, I went off the availability listed on your site... so i assumed he was good to play all 16.. he's listed as available for every week.

Edit: Here is a perfect example of why FA should be allowed during the season. Now I'm stuck the entire year without a punter for game day, yet a wasted spot on my roster (and a wasted 3-yr contract)
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Players with pending bids on them will eventually be awarded to the last bidding teams (when the clock runs out). I didn't have time to program a more graceful way of ending free agency.
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