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Old 05-20-2013, 06:21 PM  
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DOJ labels Fox News Reporter Co-Conspirator

Now the liberal media is sinking their teeth into Obama. Awesome.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...m_hp_ref=media

DOJ's Calls Fox News Reporter James Rosen 'Co-Conspirator' In Leak Case; Journalists Outraged


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A new article about how the Obama administration tracked the movements and correspondence of a Fox News reporter led to a fresh round of condemnation by journalists on Monday.

The Washington Post published an explosive story about the Justice Department's monitoring of James Rosen, a Fox News reporter based in Washington. Rosen allegedly spoke to Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a State Department contractor, for a story about North Korea's nuclear program. The Justice Department charged Kim with violating the Espionage Act for his contact with Rosen.

Kim's case has already been condemned by critics of the White House's hyper-aggressive approach to leaks, but the details of the DOJ's tracking of Rosen have not been known until now. The Post's Ann E. Marimow laid out the intensity of that monitoring in her article:

The Justice Department used security badge access records to track the reporter’s comings and goings from the State Department, according to a newly obtained court affidavit. They traced the timing of his calls with a State Department security adviser suspected of sharing the classified report. They obtained a search warrant for the reporter’s personal emails.

That goes above and beyond what the Justice Department did when it monitored the Associated Press. There, it looked at phone records, not the actual contents of emails.

Perhaps more chilling, the Post reported that, in order to justify its search warrants for Rosen's private correspondence, the Justice Department labeled Rosen a "co-conspirator" with Kim because he made an arrangement with him about how to get him information:

Reyes wrote that there was evidence Rosen had broken the law, “at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator.” That fact distinguishes his case from the probe of the AP, in which the news organization is not the likely target.


It's not clear how different these arrangements, which the Post wrote involved things like code names, were from the elaborate arrangements that Bob Woodward made with Deep Throat. Journalists reacted with particular alarm to the notion that Rosen was an "abettor" simply because he pushed for a source to give him information:

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Case against Fox's Rosen, in which O admin is criminalizing reporting, makes all of the other "scandals" look like giant nothing burgers.

Eli Lake @EliLake

Serious idea. Instead of calling it Obama's war on whistleblowers, let's just call it what it is: Obama's war on journalism.

Glenn Greenwald ✔ @ggreenwald

To address a widely believed myth: except in very rare circumstances, it is *not* a crime for journalists to report classified information

There has long been evidence that some government prosecutors do not consider journalists to have heightened levels of protection. In January, for instance, lawyers prosecuting military whistleblower Bradley Manning said that, had he passed information to the New York Times instead of WikiLeaks, he would still be "aiding the enemy." The government has also tried to make the case in the past that WikiLeaks chief Julian Assange could be indicted as a co-conspirator with Manning for receiving his information.

UPDATE: Fox News responded to the Rosen investigation in a statement to TVNewser:

“We are outraged to learn today that James Rosen was named a criminal co-conspirator for simply doing his job as a reporter. In fact, it is downright chilling. We will unequivocally defend his right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press.”


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Accusing James Rosen of committing crimes - for basic reporting - may be the most dangerous thing the Obama DOJ has done yet

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All journalists, of all political leanings, should be coming loud and hard to the defense of Fox News' Rosen. http://t.co/WAiuByTuTy

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Old 05-21-2013, 07:37 AM   #46
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:38 AM   #47
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:40 AM   #48
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:41 AM   #49
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:23 AM   #51
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:50 AM   #52
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I think it is one thing to establish probable cause for a search warrant and another to get a federal grand jury indictment and trying to prosecute the reporter.

It is kind of silly to say that the DOJ is treating reporters as "criminal co-conspirators" if that is a fact stated in a search warrant application affidavit but the reporters are not being indicted or prosecuted.

I doubt any reporters would ever be indicted for somebody giving up secrets to them if they used it in a story, but what if a reporter got hold of classified material and never reported it in a story and passed the information on to other people for other reasons?

It is interesting to me, that the "liberal media" keeps reporting that there have been 6 leak prosecutions under the Obama administration and that is more than all other administrations combined, but they never discuss the merits of those individual cases.

It might be the case that nearly all Americans would agree that those 6 cases warranted prosecution. And I think that 2 or 3 of those cases were inherited from the prior administration.

My personal belief is I would be much more concerned about an administration punishing leakers of information that never should be classified in the first place and is only embarrassing to the job performance of the executive branch. If somebody is leaking classified information that compromises national security and endangers our assets in dangerous places and/or says nothing at all about executive branch wrongdoing, then that leaker should be punished.
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I think it is one thing to establish probable cause for a search warrant and another to get a federal grand jury indictment and trying to prosecute the reporter.

It is kind of silly to say that the DOJ is treating reporters as "criminal co-conspirators" if that is a fact stated in a search warrant application affidavit but the reporters are not being indicted or prosecuted.

I doubt any reporters would ever be indicted for somebody giving up secrets to them if they used it in a story, but what if a reporter got hold of classified material and never reported it in a story and passed the information on to other people for other reasons?

It is interesting to me, that the "liberal media" keeps reporting that there have been 6 leak prosecutions under the Obama administration and that is more than all other administrations combined, but they never discuss the merits of those individual cases.

It might be the case that nearly all Americans would agree that those 6 cases warranted prosecution. And I think that 2 or 3 of those cases were inherited from the prior administration.

My personal belief is I would be much more concerned about an administration punishing leakers of information that never should be classified in the first place and is only embarrassing to the job performance of the executive branch. If somebody is leaking classified information that compromises national security and endangers our assets in dangerous places and/or says nothing at all about executive branch wrongdoing, then that leaker should be punished.

I know you're talking but all I can hear is blah blah blah Obama love blah blah blah...
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To me Blaise was trying today that Barak needs to reach out and reconnect with his base through the things that brought them together from the beginning. His love of sport and his ability to dominate on the BB court or the golf course resonates deeply. And his ability to relate to and energize the entertainment community would recapture that special feeling of the past and possibly get them to come to his aid in a time of deep division.
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And what is your point with this post?
I don't think it's all that complicated. Keep trying to figure it out, and if you're still having trouble this afternoon let me know.
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I don't think it's all that complicated. Keep trying to figure it out, and if you're still having trouble this afternoon let me know.
You should read the Washington Post article by Anne Marimow that is referred to in the opening post as the initial story about the leak and the investigation.

Pretty funny to see how this James Rosen interacted with this leaker.

If you start with the given that a reporter should not be compelled to reveal his source, these dupes did not do much to make sure they could not be found out.
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