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Old 05-20-2013, 07:21 PM  
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DOJ labels Fox News Reporter Co-Conspirator

Now the liberal media is sinking their teeth into Obama. Awesome.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...m_hp_ref=media

DOJ's Calls Fox News Reporter James Rosen 'Co-Conspirator' In Leak Case; Journalists Outraged


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A new article about how the Obama administration tracked the movements and correspondence of a Fox News reporter led to a fresh round of condemnation by journalists on Monday.

The Washington Post published an explosive story about the Justice Department's monitoring of James Rosen, a Fox News reporter based in Washington. Rosen allegedly spoke to Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a State Department contractor, for a story about North Korea's nuclear program. The Justice Department charged Kim with violating the Espionage Act for his contact with Rosen.

Kim's case has already been condemned by critics of the White House's hyper-aggressive approach to leaks, but the details of the DOJ's tracking of Rosen have not been known until now. The Post's Ann E. Marimow laid out the intensity of that monitoring in her article:

The Justice Department used security badge access records to track the reporter’s comings and goings from the State Department, according to a newly obtained court affidavit. They traced the timing of his calls with a State Department security adviser suspected of sharing the classified report. They obtained a search warrant for the reporter’s personal emails.

That goes above and beyond what the Justice Department did when it monitored the Associated Press. There, it looked at phone records, not the actual contents of emails.

Perhaps more chilling, the Post reported that, in order to justify its search warrants for Rosen's private correspondence, the Justice Department labeled Rosen a "co-conspirator" with Kim because he made an arrangement with him about how to get him information:

Reyes wrote that there was evidence Rosen had broken the law, “at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator.” That fact distinguishes his case from the probe of the AP, in which the news organization is not the likely target.


It's not clear how different these arrangements, which the Post wrote involved things like code names, were from the elaborate arrangements that Bob Woodward made with Deep Throat. Journalists reacted with particular alarm to the notion that Rosen was an "abettor" simply because he pushed for a source to give him information:

Ryan Lizza @RyanLizza

Case against Fox's Rosen, in which O admin is criminalizing reporting, makes all of the other "scandals" look like giant nothing burgers.

Eli Lake @EliLake

Serious idea. Instead of calling it Obama's war on whistleblowers, let's just call it what it is: Obama's war on journalism.

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To address a widely believed myth: except in very rare circumstances, it is *not* a crime for journalists to report classified information

There has long been evidence that some government prosecutors do not consider journalists to have heightened levels of protection. In January, for instance, lawyers prosecuting military whistleblower Bradley Manning said that, had he passed information to the New York Times instead of WikiLeaks, he would still be "aiding the enemy." The government has also tried to make the case in the past that WikiLeaks chief Julian Assange could be indicted as a co-conspirator with Manning for receiving his information.

UPDATE: Fox News responded to the Rosen investigation in a statement to TVNewser:

“We are outraged to learn today that James Rosen was named a criminal co-conspirator for simply doing his job as a reporter. In fact, it is downright chilling. We will unequivocally defend his right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press.”


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Old 05-21-2013, 04:10 PM   #76
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Well, you can't really call a guy who works for Fox "a reporter."


Kidding....I'm kidding!
I'd say you can't really call the "reporters" who work at CBS/NBC/ABC/MSNBC/CNN reporters. Afterall, some of these news stories we've spent so much time talking about lately were reported on last year by Fox while these other idiots were doing their best to bury them.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:13 PM   #77
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You mean when Fox was demanding an investigation into the leak?
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:24 PM   #78
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Is the admin able to get such emails and phone records due to all the changes since 9/11? Like the Patriot Act?
This is why such an act should not be passed. It will always be abused.
You and I have gone "round an' round" on many issues, but I completely agree with this.

The Patriot act needs to go, as well as Guantanamo, for precisely this reason: if such laws stay in place long enough, they will get abused.

Now we see Obama abusing the holes he knocked in the 4th amendment.
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:26 PM   #79
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You and I have gone "round an' round" on many issues, but I completely agree with this.

The Patriot act needs to go, as well as Guantanamo, for precisely this reason: if such laws stay in place long enough, they will get abused.

Now we see Obama abusing the holes he knocked in the 4th amendment.
Hope and change baby! Barry promised to get rid of both...oops~
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:39 PM   #80
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Hope and change baby! Barry promised to get rid of both...oops~
to be fair, barry could have promised lower milk prices, but if congress blocks him like it did on guantanamo there's nothing he can do no matter what he promised...

i don't think he lied about closing gitmo, he just assumed too much because he wasn't steeped in the ways of washington dc...

aka politically naive...
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:48 PM   #81
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to be fair, barry could have promised lower milk prices, but if congress blocks him like it did on guantanamo there's nothing he can do no matter what he promised...

i don't think he lied about closing gitmo, he just assumed too much because he wasn't steeped in the ways of washington dc...

aka politically naive...

All congress' fault. yup. To be fair and all.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:59 PM   #82
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All congress' fault. yup. To be fair and all.
it is congress' fault that gitmo hasn't been closed...

isn't it?
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:00 PM   #83
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Obama could have just bypassed congress with an EO to close gitmo?
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:09 PM   #84
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Obama could have just bypassed congress with an EO to close gitmo?
no, iirc congress placed restrictions on the use of funds for trying prisoners or housing them in the us, effectively keeping gitmo open despite the president's intention to close it...

for a good explanation of why gitmo hasn't been closed see this link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-why-hasnt-he/

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Old 05-21-2013, 11:17 PM   #85
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to be fair, barry could have promised lower milk prices, but if congress blocks him like it did on guantanamo there's nothing he can do no matter what he promised...

i don't think he lied about closing gitmo, he just assumed too much because he wasn't steeped in the ways of washington dc...

aka politically naive...
so really he can promise anything, generate leg thrills up so many, and when it doesn't happen, its always someone else's fault. yep, sounds about right. politicians play so many of us like schmucks
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it is congress' fault that gitmo hasn't been closed...

isn't it?
Congress or Bush. Didnt Congress block it when Pelosi was in charge? And when Bush was President? Damn Congress.
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Meh. It's just the Constitution of the United States of America. What's difference does it make?
Cue the leftist partisan sheep whining about how "outdated" it is, even though it's supposed to be the people's line of defense against abuses of power like the shit the Obama administration has been pulling.
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no, iirc congress placed restrictions on the use of funds for trying prisoners or housing them in the us, effectively keeping gitmo open despite the president's intention to close it...

for a good explanation of why gitmo hasn't been closed see this link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-why-hasnt-he/
Sorry, but this is 100% wrong. No, I'm sorry again, this is 10000% wrong. Gitmo's closing has little to nothing to do with Congress. try again.

I actually don't blame Obama for not closing Gitmo.. I do blame him for being so piss ignorant to think it was ok to claim he could close it in the first place. Sad that so many bought into this bunch of pandering leftist bullshit. It worries me how naive the voting public is , that this rhetoric is swallowed whole and then defended after the fact
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Sorry, but this is 100% wrong. No, I'm sorry again, this is 10000% wrong. Gitmo's closing has little to nothing to do with Congress. try again.

I actually don't blame Obama for not closing Gitmo.. I do blame him for being so piss ignorant to think it was ok to claim he could close it in the first place. Sad that so many bought into this bunch of pandering leftist bullshit. It worries me how naive the voting public is , that this rhetoric is swallowed whole and then defended after the fact
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