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Old 05-23-2013, 12:02 PM  
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Camera Suggestions?

Ok;

so the wife and I are in the market for a camera. We previously had a Sony digital camera for about 10 years but the wife dropped it and now it won't hold any settings etc.

So, it's time for another one. I'm by no means a professional photographer; but I also don't want some little $100 POS either. I'd like to have one that I could 'grow' into if I wanted to so to speak.

I think My budget is about $400-$600. I was looking at the Nikon D3200 DSLR....though, admittedly, I'm not 100% what "DSLR" is.
I like the design of it; I've held a few like it and they're much easier to hold IMO.

Suggestions?
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:37 PM   #76
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With the needed glass swap the MKIII is well out of my range.
Understood I have a couple 5D mkII's about the same camera at $1500. I was shooting tonight my Canon with Nikon glass. Had a Nikon 180mm AIS ED lens to shoot the moon with. It makes it a manual focus of course but you can use your Nikon glass on a Canon body.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:30 AM   #77
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I'd rather shoot my old D50 than the D3100. I swear the 3100 hates me. It's getting replaced soon. Very soon.

I hate to make the switch to Canon because of the glass swapping involved, but I'm almost to the point I'm ready to do it.
With the release of the D600 and D7100, you might be able to catch a good deal on a used D7000 body. It's much more enjoyable to shoot than the D3100, and you don't have to worry about swapping glass.

Right now, I wouldn't say that Canon or Nikon is ahead of the other. The D800 and 5D MkIII are both very nice at their point, and either would be a good choice if you're heavily-invested in a system. With that being said, one isn't enough better than the other to justify switching systems.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:19 AM   #78
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I watched a great video or two on Youtube where they compare the D3200 and it's Canon counterpart; taking pictures and videos of the same thing on 2 different tri-pods and comparing side-by-side.

a few others were good showing the pros and cons of each.
on the one side by side video, it looked like the Cannon had better picture..but the D3200 had executed some features better.

From what I gather, it's probably a wash either way for a Noob; both had pros and cons, but as a Noob I doubt I would notice either.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:32 AM   #79
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I know it is above your range, but it is an excellent kit for a great price:

http://www.adorama.com/INKD5200L3.html?EmailPrice=T

I bought one for the Mrs...she loves it. The photos taken with this camera are excellent. I used it to photograph a wedding...the images I took were better than the professional photographer's pix.

NOTE: you should also consider acquiring photo-editing and processing software for your computer. Aperture for the Mac is good and simple; Lightroom (Adobe) for Mac or PC is also a good choice, though a bit more complex.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:50 AM   #80
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I know it is above your range, but it is an excellent kit for a great price:

http://www.adorama.com/INKD5200L3.html?EmailPrice=T

I bought one for the Mrs...she loves it. The photos taken with this camera are excellent. I used it to photograph a wedding...the images I took were better than the professional photographer's pix.

NOTE: you should also consider acquiring photo-editing and processing software for your computer. Aperture for the Mac is good and simple; Lightroom (Adobe) for Mac or PC is also a good choice, though a bit more complex.

never thought of that. good idea.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:54 AM   #81
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I watched a great video or two on Youtube where they compare the D3200 and it's Canon counterpart; taking pictures and videos of the same thing on 2 different tri-pods and comparing side-by-side.

a few others were good showing the pros and cons of each.
on the one side by side video, it looked like the Cannon had better picture..but the D3200 had executed some features better.

From what I gather, it's probably a wash either way for a Noob; both had pros and cons, but as a Noob I doubt I would notice either.
One thing that Canon has in its favor is video capability. If you have any intention of dabbling in videography, Canon is ahead of Nikon in that area. Nikon's D5xxx series was geared to compete with Canon's T3i and T4i, and at this particular price point, Canon is a better choice.

If you're sticking with traditional photography, I'd go with the Nikon D3200 for entry-level or the D7xxx series if you're willing to stretch your budget for something that you can grow into. I've played with the Canon 60d, which is essentially a step between the T4i and the Nikon D7xxx series in terms of market strategy, and I preferred the Nikon.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:58 AM   #82
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I know it is above your range, but it is an excellent kit for a great price:

http://www.adorama.com/INKD5200L3.html?EmailPrice=T

I bought one for the Mrs...she loves it. The photos taken with this camera are excellent. I used it to photograph a wedding...the images I took were better than the professional photographer's pix.

NOTE: you should also consider acquiring photo-editing and processing software for your computer. Aperture for the Mac is good and simple; Lightroom (Adobe) for Mac or PC is also a good choice, though a bit more complex.
Good call on the software.
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:00 AM   #83
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i'm sort of an artsy guy.
Sorry I just can't let this one slide.....
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:14 AM   #84
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never thought of that. good idea.
Think torrents (evil grin)
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Sorry I just can't let this one slide.....
I'm also driving up the prices of beer.


my brain is whatever the type is, A or B etc, where I'm better drawing, music playing/appreciation, painting, dramatic movies etc. Creative would be a better word.
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One thing that Canon has in its favor is video capability. If you have any intention of dabbling in videography, Canon is ahead of Nikon in that area. Nikon's D5xxx series was geared to compete with Canon's T3i and T4i, and at this particular price point, Canon is a better choice.

If you're sticking with traditional photography, I'd go with the Nikon D3200 for entry-level or the D7xxx series if you're willing to stretch your budget for something that you can grow into. I've played with the Canon 60d, which is essentially a step between the T4i and the Nikon D7xxx series in terms of market strategy, and I preferred the Nikon.
cool; thanks for the info.
I'm going to a small camera shop at lunch today to look around. Don't feel like going to Best Buy and having a 18yr old kid give me advice.

...sort of like when I went into Guitar Center a few months back and asked about a good entry level electronic drum kit, and the 18 year old was like "this one is really good for a beginner".....as he points to the $4k Roland.

WTF
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:31 AM   #87
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Yes. The Canon 1D Mark II is an older body, but it's a rock star, IMO. It's about 8Mpx, so you're still getting images that are roughly 3264x2448. Shoots 8.5 fps, ISO extends to 3200. There is no built-in flash. If you want to use a flash, I'd buy one anyway - the built-in flashes suck.

http://www.keh.com/camera/Canon-Digi...990968260?r=FE
Is there an older model like this that has a built-in flash? I know you said they suck, but I'm really not going to use it for anything other than family photos. Plus, my main use will be for gymnastics events where I can't use a flash anyway.
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Is there an older model like this that has a built-in flash? I know you said they suck, but I'm really not going to use it for anything other than family photos. Plus, my main use will be for gymnastics events where I can't use a flash anyway.
off topic, but what gym does your daughter go to? ....not so I can show up to watch while wearing a trench coat etc....
I was a gymnast for about 6 years and competed in USGA all around a 5 state region.

Just curious.
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Is there an older model like this that has a built-in flash? I know you said they suck, but I'm really not going to use it for anything other than family photos. Plus, my main use will be for gymnastics events where I can't use a flash anyway.
It was almost 10 years ago, but I shot high school and college sports of all kinds with a Canon 20D. You can find those CHEAP now, like <$200 for a body only. They're solid cameras, too, especially for what you're wanting to do. They're about the same as far as megapixels, will do roughly 5 fps.

They have a 30D, 40D, 50D and 60D, too. These are kinda the big brothers to the Rebel line.
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It was almost 10 years ago, but I shot high school and college sports of all kinds with a Canon 20D. You can find those CHEAP now, like <$200 for a body only. They're solid cameras, too, especially for what you're wanting to do. They're about the same as far as megapixels, will do roughly 5 fps.

They have a 30D, 40D, 50D and 60D, too. These are kinda the big brothers to the Rebel line.
This seems like a decent deal, no?

http://www.keh.com/camera/Canon-Digi...991024110?r=FE

Then again, here's a 20D for $149 - http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%2...FelAMgodxDcAgQ
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