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Old 05-24-2013, 07:16 AM  
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Boy Scouts approve plan to accept openly gay boys

After lengthy and wrenching debate, local leaders of the Boy Scouts of America have voted to open their ranks to openly gay boys for the first time, but heated reactions from the left and right made clear that the BSA's controversies are far from over...

No leaders yet, but won't be far behind.

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/boy-scouts-app...221414731.html
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:59 AM   #46
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Oh I can respect your choice. It doesn't make you any less of a homophobe though.
That is one of the stupidest terms ever. Not agreeing with something does not make one afraid of it. I don't choose to have my young children subjected to abohrant behavior of any kind. If you choose differently for your children that is your right.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:00 AM   #47
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I, for one, am pretty sure that you all are going to be able to change vailpass's mind on this issue. Just keep at it!
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:01 AM   #48
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That is one of the stupidest terms ever. Not agreeing with something does not make one afraid of it. I don't choose to have my young children subjected to abohrant behavior of any kind. If you choose differently for your children that is your right.
This isn't about your rights as a parent. It's about the fact that you are frightened of what might happen if your kids are around kids that are different from you.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:01 AM   #49
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Still trying to figure out what it is that you think would happen. The kids that I grew up with that ended up coming out later in life didn't behave any differently. If anything they had it a lot harder because they were different, didn't know why, couldn't help it and ended up getting bullied.
No child should ever be bullied. We have a program that teaches that and requires students to prevent or report it. It's hard enough being a kid without that crap happening.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:02 AM   #50
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I, for one, am pretty sure that you all are going to be able to change vailpass's mind on this issue. Just keep at it!
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:03 AM   #51
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Not at all. Just don't want it around my kids.
Maybe someday they'll grow up and participate in a forum of their own, in which they can be repeatedly banned for hateful racist comments too!
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:04 AM   #52
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:04 AM   #53
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This isn't about your rights as a parent. It's about the fact that you are frightened of what might happen if your kids are around kids that are different from you.
His kids most likely won't exhibit the same bigotry that he has because eventually they will be exposed people different from them on TV, the internet and in real life away from home. He is just delaying the inevitable.
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This isn't about your rights as a parent. It's about the fact that you are frightened of what might happen if your kids are around kids that are different from you.
You miss the point completely. You want to push your morals on me and negate my own. Not happening.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:06 AM   #55
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That is one of the stupidest terms ever. Not agreeing with something does not make one afraid of it. I don't choose to have my young children subjected to abohrant behavior of any kind. If you choose differently for your children that is your right.
Being gay is not behavior in itself and therefore cannot be abhorrent behavior.
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Being gay is not behavior in itself and therefore cannot be abhorrent behavior.
There's some interesting logic.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:09 AM   #57
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Being gay is not behavior in itself and therefore cannot be abhorrent behavior.
Not saying it's a choice. Just don't want it in my kids tent.
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I, for one, am pretty sure that you all are going to be able to change vailpass's mind on this issue. Just keep at it!
I think this is a generational and regional thing. Folks in older generations have little exposure to gay folks. I have close friends, coworkers and family who are gay. Some I knew before coming out, and in one instance a friend of mine told me first out of his college friends when he came out.

It's a lot easier to be a bigot when you don't know and can't relate to the people that you want to treat differently and make decorating jokes about.
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Being gay is not behavior in itself and therefore cannot be abhorrent behavior.
I don't think vail's school kicks anyone out for thinking to themselves how much they'd like to cozy up to the same sex.
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