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Old 05-24-2013, 07:16 AM  
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Boy Scouts approve plan to accept openly gay boys

After lengthy and wrenching debate, local leaders of the Boy Scouts of America have voted to open their ranks to openly gay boys for the first time, but heated reactions from the left and right made clear that the BSA's controversies are far from over...

No leaders yet, but won't be far behind.

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Old 05-24-2013, 11:07 AM   #106
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Its good that we're addressing practical, real-life situations here.
Just an example of deviant sexual behavior. If you want to change that to "little Johnny wants to play with other boys' weiners," same thing.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #107
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Unfortunately, the Scouts tried your logic. They tried to feed the crocodile, hoping it would be fully satisfied with a "gay kid ok, gay adult not ok" distcinction.

But the croc took the offer, ate it, and is now hungry again. It won't stop. This is what happens when you bend your principles hoping the other side will meet you halfway. It never works.
Sadly, time and time again this has been proven true. You can't negotiate with extremists.

The scumbags pushing this agenda won't be happy until the Boy Scouts have been completely destroyed and replaced with the Bisexual Rainbow Brigade.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #108
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Okay, thanks for the answer. I think the problem that people have with this is having their kids knowingly around other kids who have deviant sexual desires. In some case, ignorance may be bliss. But the real agenda here is an attempt at normalizing homosexuality.
All kids have deviant sexual desires, which come in many different forms. But it's not contagious...
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:09 AM   #109
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I'd have a much bigger problem with a gay camp leader. A gay boy isn't going to turn another kid gay.

However, men being sexual in nature + the fact that the camp leader is gay, would be make me feel pretty damn uncomfortable about my kid being there.
I agree when it comes to camping trips.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:11 AM   #110
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I thought we were talking about gay men, not pedophiles
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:12 AM   #111
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All kids have deviant sexual desires, which come in many different forms. But it's not contagious...
Maybe, but it sure can be icky.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:12 AM   #112
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No, but if little Johnny showed up for a sleep over and declared that he likes to play with his dog's weiner, yes, I'd probably send him away.
I can agree with that. And if Little Johnny said he wanted to play with my child's weiner, I'd also send him away. If he wanted to play with my other child's vagina, I'd also send him away. That's not in question.

If Little Johnny was a well behaved gay child that didn't act out in a sexually inappropriate manner though, BFD... Gay isn't contagious. Simple as that.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:14 AM   #113
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Firstly: I feel my kid is in MUCH less danger from an openly gay man who we all know is gay and comfortable with his sexuality than from a closeted gay guy trying to live a straight life. Secondly, I'd just prefer to know if the guy is gay.

For those two reasons, I'm for moving it out of the closet. I think situations where repressed homosexuals living closeted lives are around vulnerable boys are much more dangerous than situations with fully out homosexuals.

That being said, I'm not crazy about BSA in general right now, and homosexuality is the least of my issues with it.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:16 AM   #114
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Firstly: I feel my kid is in MUCH less danger from an openly gay man who we all know is gay and comfortable with his sexuality than from a closeted gay guy trying to live a straight life. Secondly, I'd just prefer to know if the guy is gay.

For those two reasons, I'm for moving it out of the closet. I think situations where repressed homosexuals living closeted lives are around vulnerable boys are much more dangerous than situations with fully out homosexuals.

That being said, I'm not crazy about BSA in general right now, and homosexuality is the least of my issues with it.
Wait, are you suggesting that there's some correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia? More than just a target-rich environment?
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I say whatever, be gay, be in Boy Scouts. If the kids don't like it or the parents don't like it, they can find another troop.
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Wait, are you suggesting that there's some correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia? More than just a target-rich environment?
I don't know what NewChief thinks about that, but on a related note, I think the pressure on young, gay boys to keep their gay feelings in the closet makes it more likely that they will act in inappropriate ways (e.g. with adults) than if they were able to be open about it.
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Wait, are you suggesting that there's some correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia? More than just a target-rich environment?
I don't consider the targeting of 12-18 year olds by adults to be pedophilia.
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I don't consider the targeting of 12-18 year olds by adults to be pedophilia.
i think 12 is still there

pretty much anything before full on puberty

12 is still little kid land
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I say whatever, be gay, be in Boy Scouts. If the kids don't like it or the parents don't like it, they can find another troop.
I think that's what people are complaining about. I don't think that individual troops will be able to have a "No gay kids allowed" rule and still be a part of Scouts.

On a separate note, I just made my daughter removed her "no boys allowed!" sign from her bedroom door.
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I don't know what NewChief thinks about that, but on a related note, I think the pressure on young, gay boys to keep their gay feelings in the closet makes it more likely that they will act in inappropriate ways (e.g. with adults) than if they were able to be open about it.
I agree. Especially when that pressure comes from parents who are obviously adamant about their homophobia.
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