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Old 06-05-2013, 02:03 AM  
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Monsanto sued by Kansas wheat farmer over release of unapproved GMO wheat in Oregon

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A wheat farmer in Kansas has filed a lawsuit against Monsanto alleging that the infamous agricultural giant is guilty of gross negligence for not containing unapproved genetically modified wheat which was recently discovered in Oregon.

The farmer, Ernest Barnes, said that Monsanto’s GMO wheat has put all of the United States’ wheat export sales at risk. Meanwhile, Monsanto claims they have no clue how the “Roundup Ready” strain of wheat ended up in an Oregon field since they say they abandoned their research in 2004.

http://endthelie.com/2013/06/04/mons...heat-survived/

Indeed, Barnes is quite right in saying that the discovery has already impacted U.S. wheat exports. Japan canceled part of a tender to buy U.S. western white wheat. Japan is one of the largest export markets for U.S. wheat.

http://endthelie.com/2013/05/31/mons...europe-report/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0EB1JC20130530

South Korea also suspended imports of U.S. wheat and said they would increase inspections of imports.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1359806

The EU similarly said they will test incoming shipments and will block any shipments containing GMO wheat.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/eu-test-u-w...100808757.html

“Monsanto has released GE (genetically engineered) wheat into the non-genetically modified wheat population,” Barnes’ petition states.

The “plaintiff has been harmed by any and all Monsanto GE wheat because it has impacted wheat exports and the price of wheat,” the petition adds, according to Reuters.

http://news.yahoo.com/kansas-wheat-f...155201442.html

The unfortunate reality is that the scale of the spread of Monsanto’s unapproved GMO wheat is not quite known at this point.


Reuters points out that it is not even known if it “has contaminated food supplies” leading to multiple countries backing away from purchasing U.S. wheat.

While the lawsuit does not state a specific claim for damages, it does say that the amount in dispute exceeds $75,000.

Barnes seeks damages to be determined at trial, according to the Associated Press. However, AP notes that Warren Burns, one of Barnes’ attorneys, said that the scope of damages is potentially in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...wheat/2388957/

While the U.S. Department of Agriculture claims that Oregon wheat is safe to eat and that there is no evidence showing that the GMO wheat entered the marketplace, entire countries apparently aren’t willing to take their word for it.

“These types of suits serve the purpose of helping police the agricultural system we have in place and make sure farmers are protected,” Burns told AP.

While Barnes’ lawsuit is believed to be the first in response to the discovery, his attorney said that
similar suits are in the works, according to AP.

The cases may be consolidated to make the process of discovery easier. Discovery involves obtaining, investigating and sharing evidence among parties.

As expected, Monsanto has been critical of the lawsuit.

“Tractor-chasing lawyers have prematurely filed suit without any evidence of fault and in advance of the crop’s harvest,” David Snively, Monsanto executive vice president and general counsel, said.

Monsanto claims that they followed a “government-directed, rigorous, well-documented and audited” process of closing out their GMO wheat program.

They pointed out that on average wheat seed is only viable for one or two years in the soil. One must wonder then, where did the contamination come from if the program was so rigorously closed out some nine years ago?

Monsanto claims that they are not to be held liable for the contaminated crop because they took so much care to prevent contamination.

“Given the care undertaken, no legal liability exists and the company will present a vigorous defense,” Monsanto said in a statement

Obviously the contamination still happened so it’s unclear just how much care was actually taken.

The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Monti Belot of the U.S. District Court in Wichita, Kansas.

Burns said that he thinks the lawsuit will remain in U.S. District Court in Kansas due to the “tremendous amount of harm [that] has fallen on Kansas and Kansas farms.”

“We view it as very important to maintaining farmers and maintaining the way of life they lead which is very important not only to this country but countries around the world to which we export,” Burns said.

“It is hard to underestimate the importance of the American wheat crop in sustaining people around the globe,” Burns added, according to AP.

If the unapproved GMO wheat is found to be more widespread than the initial discovery in Oregon, the U.S. wheat exports estimated to be worth around $9 billion this year could be put at even greater risk.


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Old 06-05-2013, 10:23 AM   #31
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All these are logical fallacies such as ad hominem and appeals to authority

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That's not an argument. It's a logical fallacy.

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Don't you remember previously trying to post bullshit by the clown Jeffrey Smith, only to be shown what a fraud he is? This isn't the first time..

Here's a quote from Academics Review, a website that reviews books for their scientific accuracy..



And your quote by the AAEM is also a joke. They are a fake organization, and even their accreditation board is fake.



This is an example of how easily misinformation bullshit can pile up when ignorant people don't research what they read.
In your and someone's opinion Mr. Indoctrinated by the Establishment. Meanwhile, the testimonials by those achieving better health, even for conditions predicted as hopeless my some in mainstream healthcare, is what I'll go by.

You've refuted and haven't proved anything.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:27 AM   #32
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:29 AM   #33
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Poor dumb gypsy woman..

Don't you remember previously trying to post bullshit by the clown Jeffrey Smith, only to be shown what a fraud he is? This isn't the first time..

Here's a quote from Academics Review, a website that reviews books for their scientific accuracy..



And your quote by the AAEM is also a joke. They are a fake organization, and even their accreditation board is fake.



This is an example of how easily misinformation bullshit can pile up when ignorant people don't research what they read.
Appeal to authority much?

Actually, I know of Quackwatch...and I don't think highly of all their claims. In fact, I've seen awesome testimonials by people who have gotten great results from some treatments they call quakery. The certifying boards you adhere to, are often just trying to get rid of their competition. That's also what the AMA is all about. Look of the history of how they monopolized healthcare and got rid of competition.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:31 AM   #34
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:37 AM   #35
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That's not an argument. It's a logical fallacy.


In your and someone's opinion Mr. Indoctrinated by the Establishment. Meanwhile, the testimonials by those achieving better health, even for conditions predicted as hopeless my some in mainstream healthcare, is what I'll go by.

You've refuted and haven't proved anything.
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Appeal to authority much?

Actually, I know of Quackwatch...and I don't think highly of all their claims. In fact, I've seen awesome testimonials by people who have gotten great results from some treatments they call quakery.
That's a big part of your problem. You believe testimonials, yet question actual science.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:41 AM   #36
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That's a big part of your problem. You believe testimonials, yet question actual science.
Testimonials measure results on humans. They are very powerful. Your claim is just an attempt at authoritarianism. If you were able to access those articles by Dr. Mercola, he parses the science of your side with more specifics.

You have refuted nothing. Just attacked the source.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #37
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Whatever numbskull. It is a legitimate question. How are you positive you are receiving a truly organic product? Only real legitimate certification of organic products comes from OMRI. Many products claim to be organic and aren't. Many products claim to be organic, but maybe are but haven't been OMRI certified.

Based on your fluffy statement I highly doubt you know what you are eating though.
fluffy.. as a teen, I began work at my family's restaurant -- I'm an accomplished chef who knows how to shop.

I guess what I was trying to convey to you, is that I don't care a whole lot about omitting GMO from my diet -- I do what I can for myself and fam but there is only so much time in the day of a life rife with consumerist minefields & crooked economic inroads.

There are unanswered questions about GMO in terms of genetic mutation (which is based in the fact all life/genetic info deviates/mutates) that require time and research in order to fully explore. I don't fear the stuff, I just would like better tasting foods than GMO grown stuff offers. This actually has more to do with how we grow -- the nutes we choose etc than GMo itself, but ultimately, there are better tasting foods to be had using non GMO sources.

I began reading food labels during the seventies, so I have refined efforts limiting GMO, but I don't go ballistic when my daughter gives me a bowl of mac/cheese product©.

I come from a time when food tasted much better and I kind of try to find those delights even today. They are there, just takes a bit of effort to find, is all.

Again, my primary objection to GMO is rooted in economic treachery.

I am more focused on my part in minimizing/eliminating those consumer minefields, is what I was trying to say to you.
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Yup....but, but, but this was not reported in a peer reviewed journal and therefore is not science.
It does taste like crap. No flavor. The sweetness of something organic is noticeable...that's the extra minerals provided by nature. Minerals are the sparkplugs that make vitamins effective. Also, something from your own garden even tastes better. Oh, but this is not evidence. You did not taste that. You need to read a journal by the authorities. Free market of ideas is just dangerous...at least to those from the control ideologies.
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It's ironic when someone proudly says "I won't eat GMOs, those are dangerous. I only buy organic so I know exactly what I get." When the reality is that GMOs are tested and regulated 1000 times more than organic products.
The ironic part is that it's impossible to buy a seed that isn't GMO at this point.
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Yup....but, but, but this was not reported in a peer reviewed journal and therefore is not science.
It does taste like crap. No flavor. The sweetness of something organic is noticeable...that's the extra minerals provided by nature. Minerals are the sparkplugs that make vitamins effective. Also, something from your own garden even tastes better. Oh, but this is not evidence. You did not taste that. You need to read a journal by the authorities. Free market of ideas is just dangerous...at least to those from the control ideologies.


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The ironic part is that it's impossible to buy a seed that isn't GMO at this point.


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Old 06-05-2013, 10:59 AM   #42
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You haven't proved anything either.

Someone else who has to rely on a logical fallacy because they can't refute by articulating an argument:

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You're a ****ing idiot.
Really? Ever hear of cultural lag?

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To my way of thinking, you and some others are siding with the same crowd that advised against breast feeding and promoting baby formula at one time. Then there's Dr. Semmelweis who was scorned by his medical peers who turned out to be right. That was some sound science agreed upon by many.

How does that feel?

The government food pyramid has made Americans fat. Go ahead and follow your experts.
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Another logical fallacy:

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Let me get your tinfoil hat.
Irrelevant.
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The ironic part is that it's impossible to buy a seed that isn't GMO at this point.
I bought some at a garden show in DesMoines this Spring.
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The GMO foods do taste better, grow better, and sell better.

I'm fine with all that.

What I don't like is the idea that seeds can now have a patent and be owned.
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