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Old 06-05-2013, 02:03 AM  
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Monsanto sued by Kansas wheat farmer over release of unapproved GMO wheat in Oregon

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A wheat farmer in Kansas has filed a lawsuit against Monsanto alleging that the infamous agricultural giant is guilty of gross negligence for not containing unapproved genetically modified wheat which was recently discovered in Oregon.

The farmer, Ernest Barnes, said that Monsanto’s GMO wheat has put all of the United States’ wheat export sales at risk. Meanwhile, Monsanto claims they have no clue how the “Roundup Ready” strain of wheat ended up in an Oregon field since they say they abandoned their research in 2004.

http://endthelie.com/2013/06/04/mons...heat-survived/

Indeed, Barnes is quite right in saying that the discovery has already impacted U.S. wheat exports. Japan canceled part of a tender to buy U.S. western white wheat. Japan is one of the largest export markets for U.S. wheat.

http://endthelie.com/2013/05/31/mons...europe-report/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0EB1JC20130530

South Korea also suspended imports of U.S. wheat and said they would increase inspections of imports.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1359806

The EU similarly said they will test incoming shipments and will block any shipments containing GMO wheat.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/eu-test-u-w...100808757.html

“Monsanto has released GE (genetically engineered) wheat into the non-genetically modified wheat population,” Barnes’ petition states.

The “plaintiff has been harmed by any and all Monsanto GE wheat because it has impacted wheat exports and the price of wheat,” the petition adds, according to Reuters.

http://news.yahoo.com/kansas-wheat-f...155201442.html

The unfortunate reality is that the scale of the spread of Monsanto’s unapproved GMO wheat is not quite known at this point.


Reuters points out that it is not even known if it “has contaminated food supplies” leading to multiple countries backing away from purchasing U.S. wheat.

While the lawsuit does not state a specific claim for damages, it does say that the amount in dispute exceeds $75,000.

Barnes seeks damages to be determined at trial, according to the Associated Press. However, AP notes that Warren Burns, one of Barnes’ attorneys, said that the scope of damages is potentially in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...wheat/2388957/

While the U.S. Department of Agriculture claims that Oregon wheat is safe to eat and that there is no evidence showing that the GMO wheat entered the marketplace, entire countries apparently aren’t willing to take their word for it.

“These types of suits serve the purpose of helping police the agricultural system we have in place and make sure farmers are protected,” Burns told AP.

While Barnes’ lawsuit is believed to be the first in response to the discovery, his attorney said that
similar suits are in the works, according to AP.

The cases may be consolidated to make the process of discovery easier. Discovery involves obtaining, investigating and sharing evidence among parties.

As expected, Monsanto has been critical of the lawsuit.

“Tractor-chasing lawyers have prematurely filed suit without any evidence of fault and in advance of the crop’s harvest,” David Snively, Monsanto executive vice president and general counsel, said.

Monsanto claims that they followed a “government-directed, rigorous, well-documented and audited” process of closing out their GMO wheat program.

They pointed out that on average wheat seed is only viable for one or two years in the soil. One must wonder then, where did the contamination come from if the program was so rigorously closed out some nine years ago?

Monsanto claims that they are not to be held liable for the contaminated crop because they took so much care to prevent contamination.

“Given the care undertaken, no legal liability exists and the company will present a vigorous defense,” Monsanto said in a statement

Obviously the contamination still happened so it’s unclear just how much care was actually taken.

The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Monti Belot of the U.S. District Court in Wichita, Kansas.

Burns said that he thinks the lawsuit will remain in U.S. District Court in Kansas due to the “tremendous amount of harm [that] has fallen on Kansas and Kansas farms.”

“We view it as very important to maintaining farmers and maintaining the way of life they lead which is very important not only to this country but countries around the world to which we export,” Burns said.

“It is hard to underestimate the importance of the American wheat crop in sustaining people around the globe,” Burns added, according to AP.

If the unapproved GMO wheat is found to be more widespread than the initial discovery in Oregon, the U.S. wheat exports estimated to be worth around $9 billion this year could be put at even greater risk.


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Old 06-05-2013, 11:25 AM   #61
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Nope. BTW I edited that post by adding:
I would think there would be a connection to a firm with non-existant ethics and their final product. If they're corrupt, then how can their product not be flawed?
Doesn't that make sense to you?

I will always eat closer to nature. If there's controversy, then I just think it's safer.
what non-existant ethics?
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:26 AM   #62
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I've been down this road before with this crowd. Organics typical do taste better because they are harvested closer to ripeness. Take a non-organic and an organic fruit or vegetable of the same variety, let them both mature on the plant and you won't be able to tell the difference.

Non-organics are harvested earlier and allowed to ripen en route to the market. They typical will lose a little sugar development. However, they are treated with a fungicide to prevent rot during transport, something organics cannot (or should not).

If you are eating mass-produced organics that aren't local, you are gambling with your life IMO.
Plus, the longer they're out of the ground, being shipped and what not, they continue to lose nutrients. Right out of the ground, they have more nutrients. Then there's the light on them in the supermarkets killing more nutrients. They are less nutrient dense by the time we eat them.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:27 AM   #63
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what non-existant ethics?
See earlier in the thread...including my Monsanto chart.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:27 AM   #64
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what business practices are you referring to?
Most of what I've heard is anecdotal, but I trust the source.

They've been known to bribe governments to prevent registration of a competitor's products in foreign countries. In fact, the leader of one country actually made a trip to the states to apologize to the company, then stopped over in St. Louis to tell Monsanto to stop bribing their officials.

There have been many stories about their bulliying tactics with regards to farmers using binned seeds from the year before. I understand their desire to protect their patented rights, but some of the things they do are no way to treat a customer.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:28 AM   #65
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Most of what I've heard is anecdotal, but I trust the source.

They've been known to bribe governments to prevent registration of a competitor's products in foreign countries. Infact, the leade rof one country actually made a trip to the states to apologize to us, then stopped over in St. Louis to tell Monsanto to stop bribing their officials.

There have been many stories about their bulliying tactics with regards to faarmers using binned seeds from the year before. i understnad their desire to protect their patented rights, but some of the things they do are no way to treat a customer.
See my chart on the fascist set up involved. That's mostly what you need. This is just protection from the market via govt connections. Understanding the economic model goes a long way in understanding matters. Govt gets used to protect their markets and prevent competition....all the way down to setting up front organizations calling their competition quacks. Happens with big pharma and big med too.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #66
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Plus, the longer they're out of the ground, being shipped and what not, they continue to lose nutrients. Right out of the ground, they have more nutrients. Then there's the light on them in the supermarkets killing more nutrients. They are less nutrient dense by the time we eat them.
OK, but that doesn't mean non-organics don't have them there to begin with, which is what you are implying.
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what business practices are you referring to?
Killer Clown might be a better person to ask. He seems to have gathered quite a bit of data about it. As I recall it's more of a relentless attack on anything and anyone in any situation that might be remotely unfavorable to their business model, at times taking advantage of poorly written or unclear regulations, even venturing into behavior that appears to be illegal under current law, to the point of destroying alternatives to their own crops in such a way that even if their behavior is deemed punishable the alternative is no longer financially viable.
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OK, but that doesn't mean non-organics don't have them there to begin with, which is what you are implying.
The non-organics do start out with less of certain ones. I have numerous nutrition books which charts showing the difference.
The richer soil helps with this. There's geographical influences on flavor too. One reason they taste more intense is due to the soil. Blind tastes tests with, say strawberries, end up with the organic ones winning. They're smaller, of course, but more flavor.
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Has any ever tasted the home grown tomato ripened on the vine, compared to an industrial produced tomato? Or hand picked wild blueberries, compared to those big swollen round, but flavorless ones in the supermarket? That's all I need instead of some peer reviewed paper at hire of some big food producer.
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You think you did.

There is no invisible barrier to spores. GMO hits on the wind like everything else and whatever "organic" plants you may think you're growing probably aren't...
You're right in a sense. But cross pollination doesn't exactly occur as easily as you describe. Gene transfer is really complicated. But it doesn't just hop to a different species and transform by any means.

But even if that did occur, the organic product wouldn't even lose its organic certification. The truth is that no organic food has ever lost its organic certification because of cross pollination with a GMO. Even if it were directly detected in the "Organic" product.

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Issue: If a producer adheres to all aspects of the NOP regulations, including never utilizing genetically modified seeds, but a certifying agent tests and detects the presence of genetically modified material in the crop, is that crop's status determined to be no longer certified organic?

Reply: Organic certification is process based. That is, certifying agents attest to the ability of organic operations to follow a set of production standards and practices which meet the requirements of the Organic Foods Production Act of 1990 and the NOP regulations. The NOP regulations prohibit the use of excluded methods (i.e., “GMOs”)in organic operations. If all aspects of the organic production or handling process were followed correctly, then the presence of a detectable residue from a genetically modified organism alone does not constitute a violation of this regulation.

Issue: Is the inadvertent presence of GMOs in organic seeds a violation of the NOP regulations? Can organic producers use seeds that contain the inadvertent presence of GMOs?

Reply: 7 CFR § 205.105 of the NOP regulations prohibits the use of GMOs as excluded methods in organic production and handling. The use of excluded methods, such as planting genetically modified seeds, would require a specific intent, and would render any product ineligible for organic certification. However, the inadvertent presence of GMOs in organic seeds does not constitute a use because there was no intent on the part of the certified operation to use excluded methods. The presence of detectable GMO residues alone in an organic seed does not constitute a violation of the NOP regulations.

http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/getf...TELPRDC5090396
So yeah... organics are definitely questionable. Even if they did test the organics for GMO, which they don't, they wouldn't lose their "Organic" certification with the USDA anyway.
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It really doesn't hold up to your cousin's friend's teacher's student who saw an article online does it? Silly Fish.
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The non-organics do start out with less of certain ones. I have numerous nutrition books which charts showing the difference.
The richer soil helps with this. There's geographical influences on flavor too. One reason they taste more intense is due to the soil. Blind tastes tests with, say strawberries, end up with the organic ones winning. They're smaller, of course, but more flavor.
Are you suggesting the Earth doesn't give the same quality soil to GMO foods as it does others?
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Are you suggesting the Earth doesn't give the same quality soil to GMO foods as it does others?
"the earth" doesn't grow GMO food -- people do it and they are constricted from proper soil because as the dollar plummets, resources needed to enrich proper growing soils for food are neglected.

It's not usually the seed quality that makes foods taste so vastly different, it is the resources used to grow them.
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