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Old 06-06-2013, 05:10 PM  
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/440...t-others-prism

NSA, FBI have backdoors to data from Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, others according to leaked security presentation

Five-year-old program provides government with direct access to email, messages, browser history, more

By Dan Seifert on June 6, 2013 06:04 pm

The US National Security Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation have been harvesting data such as audio, video, photographs, emails, and documents from the internal servers of nine major technology companies, according to a leaked 41-slide security presentation obtained by The Washington Post and The Guardian. The program, codenamed PRISM, is considered highly classified and has never been made public before. The list of companies involved in it are the who's who of Silicon Valley: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Dropbox, though not yet an official part of the program, is said to be joining it soon. These companies have all willingly participated in the program, says the Post.

According to the leaked presentation, the program has been in action since 2007, and is considered the biggest contributor to the daily briefings given to the President, providing data in 1,477 articles last year alone. Allegedly, nearly one in seven intelligence reports from the NSA contains data from the PRISM program. The NSA has the ability to pull any sort of data it likes from these companies, but it claims that it does not try to collect it all. The PRISM program goes above and beyond the existing laws that state companies must comply with government requests for data, as it gives the NSA direct access to each companies servers — essentially letting the NSA do as it pleases. The program was initiated to overcome what the NSA saw as constraints within the existing Fisa warrant program that did not allow the agency to make us of the "home-field advantage" provided by having most of the internet's biggest companies on US soil.

"The who's who of Silicon Valley are involved in the NSA's PRISM program"

Microsoft was the first company to bow to the government's wishes and join the PRISM program in 2007, while Apple held out for five years before agreeing. Though Google and Facebook are a part of PRISM, Twitter has not yet joined. Apparently, the only Congress members that knew about PRISM's existence were bound by oath not to speak of it publicly. In a statement provided to both The Washington Post and The Guardian, Google denied that the government had any sort of back door access to its systems: "Google cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government 'back door' into our systems, but Google does not have a 'back door' for the government to access private user data."

The training documents for the program reveal that the NSA collects a large amount of data on the American public through the PRISM program. For example, if a specific target is investigated using PRISM, that target's complete inbox and outbox is swept, in addition to anyone that is connected to it. This high-level of access was initially given to the NSA by President Bush and was later renewed in 2012 by President Obama.

According to The Washington Post, the program's slides were provided by a "career intelligence officer" that had "firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities," and wished to expose the programs "gross intrusion on privacy." This report follows the news from earlier this week of the NSA's involvement in collecting call data and records from Verizon in another massive surveillance partnership.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:32 AM   #2
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:01 AM   #3
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:40 AM   #4
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:58 AM   #5
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The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time.

The highly classified program, code-named PRISM, has not been disclosed publicly before. Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy. Even late last year, when critics of the foreign intelligence statute argued for changes, the only members of Congress who know about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.

An internal presentation on the Silicon Valley operation, intended for senior analysts in the NSA’s Signals Intelligence Directorate, described the new tool as the most prolific contributor to the President’s Daily Brief, which cited PRISM data in 1,477 articles last year. According to the briefing slides, obtained by The Washington Post, “NSA reporting increasingly relies on PRISM” as its leading source of raw material, accounting for nearly 1 in 7 intelligence reports.

That is a remarkable figure in an agency that measures annual intake in the trillions of communications. It is all the more striking because the NSA, whose lawful mission is foreign intelligence, is reaching deep inside the machinery of American companies that host hundreds of millions of American-held accounts on American soil.

The technology companies, which participate knowingly in PRISM operations, include most of the dominant global players of Silicon Valley. They are listed on a roster that bears their logos in order of entry into the program: “Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.” PalTalk, although much smaller, has hosted significant traffic during the Arab Spring and in the ongoing Syrian civil war.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...497_story.html
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:29 AM   #6
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I know of murder case in Boston that involved someone I grew up with, who was murdered. It involved drugs. Some of my family attended the trial. The govt had everything all the emails, cell calls, texts— everything. Seemed really easy to get.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:30 AM   #7
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:05 AM   #9
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I know of murder case in Boston that involved someone I grew up with, who was murdered. It involved drugs. Some of my family attended the trial. The govt had everything all the emails, cell calls, texts— everything. Seemed really easy to get.
It is if you have physical access to the devices through use of a lawful seizure or through subpoena power.

Just pulling evidence out of a giant big brother database is a whole other thing.
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Once I understood what it was about, I really did not give a damn about the Verizon/cell phone story.

However, PRISM is just incredible.
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It is if you have physical access to the devices through use of a lawful seizure or through subpoena power.

Just pulling evidence out of a giant big brother database is a whole other thing.
Um, I know that, which is why I posted "seemed really easy to get." I don't even know if they bothered with any of the legal necessities things being what they are today with the Patriot Act etc. It was just amazing at all that they had and as my cousin who was there said, it was kinda scarey!
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Obama came out with an unflinching, full-throated defense of PRISM today. This is not partisan, there are defenders and opponents lining up from both parties, so it'll be interesting.

I think I'd have to live in an Israeli-like hellhole where suicide bombs were going off every day and the populace was freaked before I'd think about signing off on that kind of a program. Right now, I don't understand why they need this.
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