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Part 1. Which of these teams has the STRONGEST QB history over the past 50 years? 1 4.17%
Tennessee 3 12.50%
Kansas City 1 4.17%
Oakland 5 20.83%
Buffalo 2 8.33%
Philadelphia 3 12.50%
New York Giants 2 8.33%
Denver 10 41.67%
Part 1. Which of these teams has the WEAKEST QB history over the past 50 years? 1 4.17%
Tennessee 5 20.83%
Kansas City 7 29.17%
Oakland 2 8.33%
Buffalo 7 29.17%
Philadelphia 4 16.67%
New York Giants 3 12.50%
Denver 2 8.33%
The AFL force is strong in this one. 1 4.17%
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Old 08-01-2016, 05:19 PM  
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Okay, we have a big group of middle-grounders trying to fight their way up to the winners' heat. Here you go:

Tennessee

Warren Moon - 10 seasons
Dan Pastorini - 9
Steve McNair - 8
Vince Young - 3
Pete Beathard - 3
Kerry Collins - 2
Chris Chandler - 2
Ken Stabler - 2
Marcus Mariota - 1 (and current starter)
Zach Mettenberger - 1
Ryan Fitzpatrick - 1
Jake Locker - 1
Matt Hasselbeck - 1
Billy Volek - 1
Billy Joe Tolliver - 1
Oliver Luck - 1
Gifford Nielsen - 1
Charley Johnson - 1
George Blanda - 1 (led the team for 7 seasons, but only 1 since 1966 and he was also a slimy cheating Raider)

The Titans/Oilers produced 13 pro bowls, led by Warren Moon with 6.

Kansas City

Len Dawson - 8 (led team for 12 seasons, but only 8 since 1966)
Bill Kenney - 7
Trent Green - 5
Mike Livingston - 5
Matt Cassel - 4
Steve Deberg - 4
Alex Smith - 3 (and current starter)
Elvis Grbac - 3
Damon Huard - 2
Steve Bono - 2
Joe Montana - 2
Steve Fuller - 2
Tyler Thigpen - 1
Rich Gannon - 1
Dave Krieg - 1

The Chiefs produced 14 pro bowlers during this span, led by Len Dawson with 5.

Oakland

Ken Stabler - 7
Daryle Lamonica - 6
Rich Gannon - 5
Jeff Hostetler - 4
Jay Schroeder - 4
Marc Wilson - 4
Jim Plunkett - 4
Derek Carr - 2 (and current starter)
Carson Palmer - 2
Jamarcus Russell - 2
Kerry Collins - 2
Terrelle Pryor - 1
Jason Campbell - 1
Daunte Culpepper - 1
Andrew Walter - 1
Donald Hollas - 1
Jeff George - 1
Steve Beuerlein - 1
Tom Flores - 1 (led the team for 5 seasons, but only 1 since 1966)

The Raiders produced 15 pro bowls, led by Lamonica, Stabler, and Gannon with four each.

Buffalo

Joe Ferguson - 12
Jim Kelly - 11
Ryan Fitzpatrick - 4
Drew Bledsoe - 3
Dennis Shaw - 3
Jack Kemp - 3 (led team for 6 seasons, 3 before 1966)
Doug Flutie - 2
Trent Edwards - 2
Tyrod Taylor - 1 (Current starter)
Kyle Orton - 1
E.J. Manuel - 1
J.P. Losman - 1
Kelly Holcomb - 1
Alex Van Pelt - 1
Rob Johnson - 1
Todd Collins - 1
Vince Ferragamo - 1
Dan Darragh - 1

The Bills produced 10 pro bowlers in 50 years, with Jim Kelly leading at 5.

Philadelphia

Donovan McNabb - 10
Ron Jaworski - 10
Randall Cunningham - 6
Norm Snead - 5 (led team for 7 seasons, but only 5 since 1966)
Michael Vick - 3
Roman Gabriel - 3
Sam Bradford - 1 (and current starter - haha)
Mark Sanchez - 1
Nick Foles - 1
Doug Pederson - 1
Koy Detmer - 1
Bobby Hoying - 1
Ty Detmer - 1
Rodney Peete - 1
Bubby Brister - 1
Jim McMahon - 1
Mike Boryla - 1
John Reaves - 1
Pete Liske - 1

The Eagles produced 14 pro bowls, led by Donovan McNabb with 6.

NY Giants

Eli Manning - 11 seasons, and current starter since he whined and threw a tantrum to leave San Diego.
Phil Simms - 11
Kerry Collins - 5
Fran Tarkenton - 5
Dave Brown - 3
Craig Morton - 3
Danny Kanell - 2
Jeff Hostetler - 2
Scott Brunner - 2
Joe Pisarcik - 2
Norm Snead - 2
Kurt Warner - 1
Gary Wood - 1

The Giants produced 11 pro bowlers, led by Fran Tarkenton and Eli Manning with 4 each.

Denver

John Elway - 16
Craig Morton - 5
Peyton Manning - 4
Jake Plummer - 4
Brian Griese - 4
Steve Ramsey - 3
Charley Johnson - 3
Kyle Orton - 2
Jay Cutler - 2
Steve Tensi - 2
Tim Tebow - 1
Steve Deberg - 1
Pete Liske - 1
Marlin Briscoe - 1
Max Choboian - 1

The Broncos produced 15 pro bowls during that period, led by the Baltimore Colts' John Elway, who had 9.
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It's been funny watching this thing develop. Kudos to you on the time you put into it, but some of the results are definitely interesting.
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It's been funny watching this thing develop. Kudos to you on the time you put into it, but some of the results are definitely interesting.
You think Cleveland got knocked out too early, too? Bernie Kosar was really pretty good.
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You think Cleveland got knocked out too early, too? Bernie Kosar was really pretty good.
More curious as to how KC is in this group...
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More curious as to how KC is in this group...
The teams in this heat all have 10 to 15 pro bowls at the position, and the Chiefs have 14. They've had two Hall of Famers as starters, which is tied for the highest in the group, and Trent Green quarterbacked one of the best offenses in NFL history for several years. I think they're pretty much right in the thick of this heat.

I really do think that Len Dawson is being extraordinarily discounted here. The guy is a Hall of Famer with two championships (NFL and AFL), two Super Bowl appearances, a Super Bowl MVP award, and he was probably the second-best quarterback of his era after Fran Tarkenton. His only sin is that he did it at the early end of the time frame.
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Oh, I need a tiebreaker at the bottom end. Anyone want to vote?
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More curious as to how KC is in this group...
a) This is a Chiefs forum. Ergo,

b) The last two heats they were in were specifically engineered to make them look superior by comparison.
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