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Old 06-10-2013, 08:33 AM  
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Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

The NSA leaker has come forward in a June 9 interview on The Guardian, the British media outlet that broke the story of the NSA acquisition of phone records and access to online activity. Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA, has come forward to identify himself as the NSA whistleblower being sought in the release of NSA files. He said he is not hiding because he has not done anything wrong.

Snowden is currently an employee of a defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, and he has previously worked for various others. This has put him inside the National Security Agency for the last four years.

The NSA leaker, aware that he would be facing the ire of the U.S. government, made the choice to sacrifice his comfortable life in Hawaii and $200,000 salary to make the public aware of the depth of the privacy infringements that he claims exist. He says he doesn't want to live in a society like that.

The NSA leaker was a former CIA tech assistant

"The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to," he said.

You can view Edward Snowden's video interview here.: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...r-surveillance

The technology specialist is "holed up" in a motel in Hong Kong, basically waiting for the other shoe to drop.

He wrote a note that went with the second set of documents, according to The Guardian:

"I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions," but "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."

The head of NSA, James Clapper, has reported the leaks of the NSA documents as a crime. You can read about that here.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:48 PM   #256
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did he do something morally wrong is not the question...
did he do anything illegal is the question


This shit needs to stop
I am a liberal, and I believe the executive branch has way to much power
and nobody is gonna slap them down

the Supremes are to busy doing corpRAT's will

the house and senate are to busy making sure nothing happens to actually do anything


should get an impeachment soon, for some BS like they did to Clinton
and nobody is trying to help the country

just the rich

Meh, Obama will just ask Holder to investigate Holder and get back to him after his vacation(s)
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:52 PM   #257
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Lots of people.

And really not that big an issue but the size and scope is a bit bigger than the facility off 150 highway. 1.9 million square feet not including all the mechanical and support facilities.

http://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/

And just to fix another error in your post....its not a nuclear facility. Its a facility for non nuclear parts "manufacture non-nuclear mechanical, electronic, and engineered materials for national defense systems."

http://www.gsa.gov/portal/content/10...aign=shortcuts


Nice try. Stick to things you may understand.
I understand you aren't very smart. Your link is a parody site idiot

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Wikipedia has it between 1-1.5 million but regardless it is going to be big.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:59 PM   #258
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Wiki.....really? You keep falling into the depths of stupid at an increasing rate. Have a swell trip.


Wiki Dirk? Good lord.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:09 PM   #259
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Wiki.....really? You keep falling into the depths of stupid at an increasing rate. Have a swell trip.


Wiki Dirk? Good lord.
wikipedia vs parody site..hmmm which one is more reliable? lol

How about Information Week? http://www.informationweek.com/gover...y-da/221100260

NPR? http://www.npr.org/2013/06/10/190160...gest-data-farm

Anyway why are we arguing over something so inconsequential?
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:17 PM   #260
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Hero? He didn't expose a secret conspiracy within the government. He didn't expose atrocities committed by the government. He didn't expose secret alliances with terrorists, foreign governments or secret death squads.

Where is the "heroic" actions? I think some of you need to relearn what the definition of a hero is.
It's subjective. I'm sure Lenin was a hero to Bolsheviks.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:18 PM   #261
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The reasons he gave for selecting Hong Kong to reveal his identity would indicate otherwise. Pretty naive. Might have well have given the interview from the mall in DC for all the protection Hong Kong will give him.
Iceland's parliament is offering him political asylum. Not a bad place to be. At least the kicked the global banksters out.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:22 AM   #262
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The reasons he gave for selecting Hong Kong to reveal his identity would indicate otherwise. Pretty naive. Might have well have given the interview from the mall in DC for all the protection Hong Kong will give him.
That is why I don't trust his motivates yet.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:25 AM   #263
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Iceland's parliament is offering him political asylum. Not a bad place to be. At least the kicked the global banksters out.
I think he said he is looking into Iceland in his interview.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:34 AM   #264
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I would but CP doesn't like those with low post counts from posting links. Mother Jones and Salon have stories on it.
I got yea covered.

FISA Court Has Rejected .03 Percent Of All Government Surveillance Requests

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013...reject-request

That is .03 percent since 1979
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:39 AM   #265
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Since I haven't seen it posted yet.

Ex-CIA leaker goes missing in Hong Kong (misleading headline, we don't where he went)

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/securit...611-2o0ni.html

US spy leaker Edward Snowden leaves Hong Kong hotel

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22850901
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:45 AM   #266
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Hero? He didn't expose a secret conspiracy within the government. He didn't expose atrocities committed by the government. He didn't expose secret alliances with terrorists, foreign governments or secret death squads.

Where is the "heroic" actions? I think some of you need to relearn what the definition of a hero is.
Hero gets thrown around so much anymore I just don't think people know what a true hero is anymore.

Here is my definition of a hero:

1. There must be a situtation that if placed into that situation it has the potential to drastically alter your life for the worse or to end it.

2. You willingly put yourself into said situation.

3. You put yourself into the situation to help your fellow man and not yourself.

If the story is true then yes I think he hits all three of those.
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:51 AM   #267
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Hero gets thrown around so much anymore I just don't think people know what a true hero is anymore.

Here is my definition of a hero:

1. There must be a situtation that if placed into that situation it has the potential to drastically alter your life for the worse or to end it.

2. You willingly put yourself into said situation.

3. You put yourself into the situation to help your fellow man and not yourself.

If the story is true then yes I think he hits all three of those.
3 is pretty questionable. Helping China and al Qaeda shouldn't really count.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:03 AM   #268
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If someone were to come on here and say that they are tracking us, that person would be labeled crazy. But if someone says it and it is shown on CNN or whatever mainstream publication, he is a hero. Get the **** outta here with that........
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:08 AM   #269
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If someone were to come on here and say that they are tracking us, that person would be labeled crazy. But if someone says it and it is shown on CNN or whatever mainstream publication, he is a hero. Get the **** outta here with that........
If you have proof of said tracking and you brought it to CP instead of CNN or Fox or any other mainstream outlet you are not only crazy but your an ****ing idiot (yes I know it is spelled wrong).
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Oh, and for the record I think George Washington noses out Mr. Snowden for the title suggested in the OP.
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