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Old 06-11-2013, 10:39 AM  
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Rubio can bag it along with FatChristie

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In a Spanish-language interview Sunday with the network Univision, Sen. Marco Rubio, the leading Republican on the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform group, made his strongest statement yet that legalization of the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants must happen before any new border security or internal enforcement measures are in place, and will in no way be conditional on any security requirements.

“Let’s be clear,” Rubio said. “Nobody is talking about preventing the legalization. The legalization is going to happen. That means the following will happen: First comes the legalization. Then come the measures to secure the border. And then comes the process of permanent residence.”


Typical Washington, typical politician. They concoct elaborate ways to do nothing. And garner votes in the process. That is all they care about.

Rubio had so much potential. But he can eat a bag of dicks if his idea is to legalize 11 million law breakers and Do NOT ONE DAMN THING to stop the next wave of 5 million illegal Mexicans who will swarm the border as soon as they can get to it to suck at the new fresh tit of US taxpayers.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:14 PM   #46
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People who can't see that illegal immigration is and has been a problem with many heads shouldn't just write off the concerns of others as a phobia...but that's what libs do...try to categorize those with different thoughts as dysfunctional...cowardly really.
12-15 million people will NOT be deported. Pure and simple truth. Not liking that truth does not change it.
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It's not xenophobic to have a grudge against people who sneak their way into the country while others wait in line, pay no taxes outside of payroll but still consume all the things taxpayers pay for including schools, police, parks, fire departments, etc...., jack up crime rates, jack up insurance premiums because they have no insurance.

I don't have xenophobia. I welcome any immigrant that pays their dues to be in this country. The right way.

If you'd bother to research it, for real... You would already know that "they" contribute MUCH more than "they" take from it.

But I wouldn't expect that from folks like you... It's hard work, that research stuff.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:18 PM   #47
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As a libertarian, I am good with immigration reform. We should make it a lot easier for people to come here. Of course, I am also for tearing down the welfare state and minimum wage so if you come here be ready to work because there are no handouts.

Forcing people into the shadows and shadow economy does nothing to integrate them into American society.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:41 PM   #48
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I'm not a big fan of it but the reality is something needed to be done.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:45 PM   #49
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I'm not a big fan of it but the reality is something needed to be done.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:46 PM   #50
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Keep drinking that kool-aid...er, eh....tea.
Another logical fallacy. You're on a roll.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:07 PM   #51
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Another logical fallacy. You're on a roll.
Logical fallacy? Heh. If you think that my response was anything but a "Jane, you ignorant slut...." kind of remark, then you are taking your ignorant and clueless and self-absorbed, navel-gazing ****-ass...way, WAY too seriously.

Lighten-up you dumb bitch...

Go ahead, hit me pussy...
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:32 PM   #52
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jeebus, i called her ms. pea brain and she put me on ignore...

how come you get to talk to that lovely lovebird and i don't?
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:47 PM   #53
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Logical fallacy? Heh. If you think that my response was anything but a "Jane, you ignorant slut...." kind of remark, then you are taking your ignorant and clueless and self-absorbed, navel-gazing ****-ass...way, WAY too seriously.

Lighten-up you dumb bitch...

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Like I said you're on a roll with logical fallacies tonight!
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:49 PM   #54
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jeebus, i called her ms. pea brain and she put me on ignore...

how come you get to talk to that lovely lovebird and i don't?
She's a mean Conservative Cougar...Lisa Ann-Sarah Palin-style. Minus the sexiness.

But she wants me. She must love bald dudes with goatees. Shave the head, man. Just sayin'...heh.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:09 PM   #57
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12-15 million people will NOT be deported. Pure and simple truth. Not liking that truth does not change it.


If you'd bother to research it, for real... You would already know that "they" contribute MUCH more than "they" take from it.

But I wouldn't expect that from folks like you... It's hard work, that research stuff.
I don't believe in mass deportation because I think it's unreasonable.

The idea that they improve the economy is a major load of crap sold to you by the liberal media. There's a loose accounting of what tax benefit they can provide given that they run in an underground economy, as well as a loose accounting for the drain (e.g. schools investing in bilingual services). The justification is that they pay into government programs like social security and medicaid that they're afraid to use, and that they take jobs nobody else wants which lowers production costs, and because they buy stuff.

Guess what, a legal immigrant can do that same shit, pay into their taxes, require less special services, and also take less optimal jobs while buying goods and services. Right now, America has a significant brain drain and they have a shitload of highly professional jobs that nobody's qualified for, yet we're kicking out qualified immigrants at an astronomical rate. These guys can't get in line because the illegals are taking their spots.

So yeah, I have a hard time hearing you try to sell to me that illegal immigrants are providing a benefit to society above and beyond a legal immigrant who could and should take their place.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:00 AM   #58
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jeebus, i called her ms. pea brain and she put me on ignore...

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You're just looking for some strange in your el camino
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