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Old 06-11-2013, 06:47 PM  
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Betraying the country that has betrayed you..

Had a very interesting discussion today with a few peeps on the Snowden ordeal and some very interesting points were made. Basically it goes like this...


Snowden is being called a "Traitor" in some corners and a "Hero" in others. If you look at the majority of the people calling him the former you see the mainstream, DC ilk from both sides of the isle. You also see a lot of corporate suck-ups as well. On the other side you see people that while considered to be "whacko" a lot of times, generally care about the people even if some of their opinions are often misguided or fringe. And again, that is from both sides of the isle.

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Boehner\Feinstein: Traitor

Beck\M. Moore: Hero

My eyebrows raised several times over the course of the last few days. One time was when President Obama said there has to be some "trade off" for security. I won't repost the Ben Franklin quote that seems to come to mind when you hear that.

Then you see 2 DC careers in Boehner and DiFi saying this guy is a traitor. When I see people such as them from both sides of the isle I ask myself are they genuine in their feelings or are they pissed because someone spit in their game?

So let's look at the people pointing the Traitor finger. Our government over the last few decades have gone to war, committed fraud, embezzled, cheated on taxes, allowed millions to sneak into the country illegally, bailed out the rich, took more and more control of our economy and enriched themselves while doing so. Our congress as well as our President and First Lady enjoy lavish benefits, perks and vacations on the tax payer dime. When Pelosi and McCain aren't flying around the world for some reason or another, the Obama's are deciding where they will take their monthly, separate vacations. When Kathleen Sibelius is cheating on here taxes she is taking more of yours and using the one-sided IRS to do so.

If you or I were to use a fake SSN we would be caught, tried and convicted. If Juan Pablo Martinez from Mexico does so we are told it's impossible to find these people and convict them yet our government consistently proposes allowing Jaun to stay in the country legally if he promises to pay his back taxes.

Our country's corporate elite have milked the tax payers for tax breaks and incentives and in return sent millions of jobs out of this country, laid off 100's of 1,000's of workers to further enrich and already rich minority and taken billions of $'s in tax payer monies.

In the name of "national security" we have to be virtually strip searched to get on an airplane, babies have had their milk thrown out, you can't bring on a bottle of shampoo over 3 oz. and you can be stuck on some list that claims you to be a terrorist threat when you are nothing of the sort.

In the name of "national security" the city of Boston was all but shut down and taken over by a para-military force that chased down 2 guys while illegally performing house-house searches.


Now in the name of "national security" we have a congress that wants to severely limit our 2nd amendment and some want to rid us of the right totally, limit our 1st amendment rights and now our 4th amendment rights.

When they get caught they tell the voters of this country they will investigate themselves and get to the bottom of it all. Holder will investigate Holder, Hillary will investigate Hillary and Obama will pretend to not know anything until he reads the newspaper.

Now it has come to light that just about every form of communication you conduct is being recorded thus making it available to be accessed at a later date should it ever be deemed necessary.

Meanwhile, almost 10 months later, we still can't get a clear answer on things like Benghazi.

Did Snowden betray his country? Perhaps. Has this country betrayed the average American? Most definitely.

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Old 06-11-2013, 08:56 PM   #46
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**** yes!!!

Dude just had both his legs blown off and he is just riding along in the wheelchair like BFD? No shock? No trauma? Just hi-ho-hum, here we go on a wheelchair ride.
Your ridiculous argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:56 PM   #47
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I am not saying the bombing was "faked". I am saying the real deal behind it is not what we are being told. I never said it was faked. I said it was a false-flag and there is a ton of proof to back that.

The only proof that supports the governments claim is the words of the government.
So the bombing wasn't faked, but the injuries to the man with his legs blown off are? That makes no sense.

There is no "proof" of a false flag attack. There is plenty of theory, accusation, and skepticism, but not one ounce of proof.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:57 PM   #48
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So the govt just killed those people, and blew the legs off all those folks, just to do a test run to see if they could get away with searching people's homes for a "bomber?"

Were the bombers govt agents or were they set up?
Bombers were from Craft. One of the backpacks that was exploded matches perfectly the backpack one of the Craft guys had on and suddenly didn't have on as he was running away from the bomb scene.
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So the bombing wasn't faked, but the injuries to the man with his legs blown off are? That makes no sense.

There is no "proof" of a false flag attack. There is plenty of theory, accusation, and skepticism, but not one ounce of proof.
There is more proof that it was a false flag than there is to support to story we are being told.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:58 PM   #50
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Your ridiculous argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.
I see what you did there....
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:59 PM   #51
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Bombers were from Craft. One of the backpacks that was exploded matches perfectly the backpack one of the Craft guys had on and suddenly didn't have on as he was running away from the bomb scene.
When you aren't on the internet do you tell people of your beliefs on these things? Like at work or with family? What do they say?
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There is more proof that it was a false flag than there is to support to story we are being told.
OK. Your opinion and your entitled to it. I don't agree, but I'm sure I can't change your mind.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:10 PM   #53
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OK. Your opinion and your entitled to it. I don't agree, but I'm sure I can't change your mind.
Ok, so you believe that 2 guys with pressure cookers did all this and for whatever reason, our "authorities' engaged in an unprecedented style of manhunt, all but shutdown Boston, ran through the city with para-military forces and armored vehicles, conducted illegal searches of homes and it was all perfectly legit?

Never mind there were Craft\Navy Seal personnel at the bombing scene, one of which coincidentally wearing a backpack that was an exact match as one of the exploded backpacks and ..and, coincidentally was seen running away from the bombing scene without said backpack.

Since the beginning of time, leaders and governments have conducted false-flag type operations. Our government is no different. They just know that the majority of our country cares more about who is going to be on American Idol than to question the "official story" because after all....there is no way our government would ever do such a thing.
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Ok, so you believe that 2 guys with pressure cookers did all this and for whatever reason, our "authorities' engaged in an unprecedented style of manhunt, all but shutdown Boston, ran through the city with para-military forces and armored vehicles, conducted illegal searches of homes and it was all perfectly legit?

Never mind there were Craft\Navy Seal personnel at the bombing scene, one of which coincidentally wearing a backpack that was an exact match as one of the exploded backpacks and ..and, coincidentally was seen running away from the bombing scene without said backpack.

Since the beginning of time, leaders and governments have conducted false-flag type operations. Our government is no different. They just know that the majority of our country cares more about who is going to be on American Idol than to question the "official story" because after all....there is no way our government would ever do such a thing.
I do believe exactly this. Thousands of people go to Boston for the marathon. It's not unlikely that some could be Craft/Seal personnel. Someone running away from a bombing scene and in the confusion forgets their backpack is absolutely understandable.
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I do believe exactly this. Thousands of people go to Boston for the marathon. It's not unlikely that some could be Craft/Seal personnel. Someone running away from a bombing scene and in the confusion forgets their backpack is absolutely understandable.
And their backpack they are missing just so happens to be an exact match as one that exploded?

Difference is I am going by photographic evidence and you are going by unsubstantiated possibilities based on a hope that our government would never do such a thing.
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And their backpack they are missing just so happens to be an exact match as one that exploded?
Yes, for some strange reason manufacturers mass produce products in order to drive down costs and create profits. I know you think that your Members Only jacket is one of a kind and makes you the coolest conspiracy theorist at the coffee shop, but I assure you there are more out there. The reason you don't see all of the jackets like yours is because most people stopped wearing them in 85.
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Yes, for some strange reason manufacturers mass produce products in order to drive down costs and create profits. I know you think that your Members Only jacket is one of a kind and makes you the coolest conspiracy theorist at the coffee shop, but I assure you there are more out there. The reason you don't see all of the jackets like yours is because most people stopped wearing them in 85.
Yeah, what a coincidence. I mean a military guy among other military guys happens to lose his pack and by some remote chance another pack that looked exactly like his gets exploded not far from where he was running from.
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And their backpack they are missing just so happens to be an exact match as one that exploded?

Difference is I am going by photographic evidence and you are going by unsubstantiated possibilities based on a hope that our government would never do such a thing.
What's this exact backpack match stuff? Where are you getting that?

Also, for someone so skeptical of all the mainstream news reports, how is it that you are so comfortable relying on the "photographic evidence" of unknown internet folk?
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What's this exact backpack match stuff? Where are you getting that?

Also, for someone so skeptical of all the mainstream news reports, how is it that you are so comfortable relying on the "photographic evidence" of unknown internet folk?
Where am I getting it from? All the videos you earlier claimed not to exist.

Are you really asking me why I don't trust media outlets that intentionally hid Benghazi until well after the election?
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pete and several others on here believe that EVERY event like this is a govt operation. Boston, the school shootings, the movie theatre shootings, and, obviously, 9/11, were all govt operations.

I really don't know how these people can even get out of bed in the morning. You would think they would be too afraid of govt agents kidnapping them as they walk out the door to silence them for telling the truth.
Actually it's the other way around. Most idiots that believe the govt, think they need them so bad they can repeatedly rape them if it means they are "safe".
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