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Old 06-11-2013, 09:59 PM  
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Animal Cruelty

What's DC's general take on the issue of animal cruelty?

Do you think it's an issue worth spending governmental resources over to combat?

Do you think there should be harsh punishments for egregious violations of animal cruelty?

Do you think regular offenders of animal cruelty should face prison time or property seizure?

Do you think that undercover investigators of animal cruelty should be punished by law for revealing their findings?
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:49 PM   #91
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Oh, and have you ever been around a chicken? They are seriously stupid. My BIL grew some and they were mind bogglingly worthless at anything except eating shitting and producing eggs.
Sounds like a particular democrat demographic I know.
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:10 PM   #92
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I had a guy who was a farmer ask me if I wanted to hunt deer on his land. He said he was lousy with them. Carried a rifle on his tractor and would just shoot them indiscriminately if he saw them, no matter what time of year. Farmers (many) think of deer as rats. They destroy their crops, get diseases and are just a ****ing nuisance. I was a little shocked at that, since I don't think of them that way at all, but I'm not a farmer and they don't screw with my livelyhood.

Is what that farmer doing cruel? Or is he just eeking out a living?
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:16 PM   #93
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Oh, and have you ever been around a chicken? They are seriously stupid. My BIL grew some and they were mind bogglingly worthless at anything except eating shitting and producing eggs. Grandpa tells me that when he had them, you'd have to run them in the coup in a storm because the dumb ****s would look up at the lightning with their mouths open and ****ing drown.
I saw one that kicked everyone's ass at tic-tac-toe.
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:33 PM   #94
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So if I've jerked this boar off twice a week for a year , am I allowed to kick him in the nuts just one time ? I think he still comes out ahead, right ?
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:33 PM   #95
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I saw one that kicked everyone's ass at tic-tac-toe.
I have no idea what that means.

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Old 06-13-2013, 04:37 PM   #96
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I have no idea what that means.

You were speaking of the stupidity of the chicken.

I mentioned that I saw one that could beat people at tic-tac-toe.

Tic-tac-toe is a game.
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:38 PM   #97
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So if I've jerked this boar off twice a week for a year , am I allowed to kick him in the nuts just one time ? I think he still comes out ahead, right ?
Oh he's definitely in the he owes you still column.
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:48 PM   #98
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You were speaking of the stupidity of the chicken.

I mentioned that I saw one that could beat people at tic-tac-toe.

Tic-tac-toe is a game.
Awesome. Good story.
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:00 PM   #99
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:15 PM   #100
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I think people who object to tight packing chickens should protest by refusing to eat chicken. I don't think government regulations on how many square feet/inches a chicken rancher needs to provide for each chicken is the way to go.
I'm an animal lover. I agree with this post entirely. I'll give an example. While I lived in the Charlotte area, I saw a truck either coming or going from a Tyson plant down there. It was disgusting too me seeing the conditions those chickens were in. I haven't stopped eating chicken by any stretch of the imagination, but I won't eat Tyson.

While I'm sure that is a practice employed by many plants, that's the one I saw and have boycotted that company ever since. That's the solution. Don't like how a company does business, don't give them yours.

Drawing the line between abuse, and torture is difficult, however I'm all for strict punishment for blatant torture is fine by me. Abuse, not so much. They're being lined up to be killed to feed the masses. There's no humane way to do that.

People who just torture animals because they get off on it are my only concern when it comes to this type of thing, because as others have stated I believe that they pose a concern to the community. It's well known that a lot of those people start off with animals and move up to humans. They should be punished, monitored, and receive psychiatric treatment.
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:44 PM   #101
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I'm an animal lover. I agree with this post entirely. I'll give an example. While I lived in the Charlotte area, I saw a truck either coming or going from a Tyson plant down there. It was disgusting too me seeing the conditions those chickens were in. I haven't stopped eating chicken by any stretch of the imagination, but I won't eat Tyson.

While I'm sure that is a practice employed by many plants, that's the one I saw and have boycotted that company ever since. That's the solution. Don't like how a company does business, don't give them yours.

Drawing the line between abuse, and torture is difficult, however I'm all for strict punishment for blatant torture is fine by me. Abuse, not so much. They're being lined up to be killed to feed the masses. There's no humane way to do that.

People who just torture animals because they get off on it are my only concern when it comes to this type of thing, because as others have stated I believe that they pose a concern to the community. It's well known that a lot of those people start off with animals and move up to humans. They should be punished, monitored, and receive psychiatric treatment.
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I understand your ant analogy and on the top layers of this issue, you are correct.

But, you can't look at those top layers and say this is it. There is emotion involved. Thats a game changer.

I would risk my life to save my dog from drowning or getting harmed by something. I don't do that for an ant.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:21 PM   #103
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The smoking ban arguments over the years told me that you and I view many issues similarly. Not everything of course, but we have the same philosophies when it comes to government.
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I'm an animal lover. I agree with this post entirely. I'll give an example. While I lived in the Charlotte area, I saw a truck either coming or going from a Tyson plant down there. It was disgusting too me seeing the conditions those chickens were in. I haven't stopped eating chicken by any stretch of the imagination, but I won't eat Tyson.

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Drawing the line between abuse, and torture is difficult, however I'm all for strict punishment for blatant torture is fine by me. Abuse, not so much. They're being lined up to be killed to feed the masses. There's no humane way to do that.

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Tyson sells chickens under a lot of different names and products. Good luck.
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