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Old 06-12-2013, 06:14 PM  
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Some things you may have overlooked or didn't know about recent news

Things you may not know:

  • The software code that is supposedly used to do the data mining of the phone numbers and internet habits was given away by the NSA to the public 2 years ago.
Why would they do that? Publicly, it was a PR move simliar to NASA saying the billions spent is paid back to society in advancing tech for us all. See....the billions we spend on security have a benefit to us beyond security. It's created a boon in I. T. Lots of jobs and helps USA businesses compete with other countries.

I'm sure Taco John has a job today based on that free code that NSA released. You no longer need huge data centers and millions of $'s of equipment to perform data mining at this level. This has the potential to change every single parts of our lives.

But, if its publicly posted doesn't that mean our enemies have it now? So again, why would the NSA not care if it released the code?


  • If I'm gone 18 hours without notice, the security and police will be looking for me. Within 36 hours the military. This is normal.
They knew he was gone. He bought a ticket in his name for Hong Kong. He's been paying for his room with a credit card in his name. Why did this guy tell the world about how we are using the code after 3 weeks of not reporting to work? Where was the NSA?

  • Snowden couldn't stay at one location because he was too weird and had no social skills in the work place. He was like Manning. He just had access to a network where "stuff" was, not work with that "stuff". He didn't have access to the "Prism" stuff. Only knew of its existence, not the details or its technical capabilities.
  • A new social profile is emerging of someone that may betray their country not for money/sex/power etc. but for political reasons.
  • Just because you have "Top Secret" clearance doesn't mean you actually see any of the "Top Secret" stuff. If you log on to a network or enter a building where "Top Secret" stuff is, you must have that clearance. That means the person who cleans the bathrooms, cooks the burgers in the cafe, cleans the floors etc. You still have to have a need to know and access is closely monitored using various technologies. You can't just surf around.

I'm asking you guys to put your critical thinking hats on and tell me what conclusion you came to.

First one with the correct answer wins.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:19 PM   #2
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You are saying that NSA set a trap for Snowden and he tripped it?
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:22 PM   #3
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Speaking of news. 24 hours from now Glen Beck will bring down the GOP,the dems,the military & more. much much more.


I wounder what it could be? It's got to be Aliens. Aliens abducting humans
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:35 PM   #4
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Speaking of news. 24 hours from now Glen Beck will bring down the GOP,the dems,the military & more. much much more.
I wounder what it could be? It's got to be Aliens. Aliens abducting humans
Holy. Shit.

Right after the Boston Marathon bombing, didn't Beck give Obama 24 hours to come clean about something or else Beck would release a bunch of damning evidence? Still waiting on that.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:44 PM   #5
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Feds hunted for Snowden in days before NSA programs went public


(Reuters) - U.S. government investigators began an urgent search for Edward Snowden several days before the first media reports were published on the government's secret surveillance programs, people familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.

Snowden, who has admitted to providing details of the top-secret programs, had worked on assignment at a Hawaii facility run by the National Security Agency for about four weeks before he said he was ill and requested leave without pay, according to the sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

When Snowden failed to return, that prompted a hunt for the contractor, first by his employer Booz Allen Hamilton and then by the U.S. government, they said.

Snowden, 29, was known among colleagues as a very gifted "geek," according to one of the sources, who added, "This guy's really good with his fingers on the keyboard. He's really good."

His job as a systems administrator would have afforded Snowden very wide access to servers containing classified information at the NSA, and possibly other U.S. intelligence agencies, the same source said, without giving specifics.

U.S. officials do not yet know the extent to which Snowden was able to access intelligence databases, nor have they identified all the secret material he might have downloaded before leaving for Hong Kong, according to three sources.

Several sources said that as a systems administrator, Snowden would have been unable to actively spy on people, even though he told the Guardian newspaper, "I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authority to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President."

Snowden already had a Top Secret clearance before he joined Booz Allen in April, two sources said, adding that he likely obtained that clearance - which involves passing a polygraph exam - when he previously worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.

For his first week or two with Booz Allen, Snowden attended training sessions near Fort Meade, the Maryland military installation where NSA headquarters is located and where numerous agency contractors have offices.

After that, Snowden moved to take up his assignment with a company team based at the NSA installation in Hawaii. He was only on the job for around four weeks when he told his employers he was ill and requested leave without pay, the sources said.

When Booz Allen checked in with him, Snowden said he was suffering from epilepsy and needed more time off. When he failed to return after a longer period, and the company could not find him, it notified intelligence officials because of Snowden's high-level security clearance, one of the sources said.

Government agents spent several days in the field trying to find Snowden, according to the source, but they were unable to do so before the first news story based on Snowden's revelations appeared in the Guardian and then in the Washington Post.

The government did not know Snowden was the source for the stories until he admitted it on Sunday, the sources said.

A spokesman for Booz Allen Hamilton said the company had no comment beyond its earlier statements. Booz had previously said it fired Snowden for violating its "code of ethics and firm policy."
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:48 PM   #6
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:54 PM   #7
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Feds hunted for Snowden in days before NSA programs went public


(Reuters) - U.S. government investigators began an urgent search for Edward Snowden several days before the first media reports were published on the government's secret surveillance programs, people familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.

Snowden, who has admitted to providing details of the top-secret programs, had worked on assignment at a Hawaii facility run by the National Security Agency for about four weeks before he said he was ill and requested leave without pay, according to the sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

When Snowden failed to return, that prompted a hunt for the contractor, first by his employer Booz Allen Hamilton and then by the U.S. government, they said.

Snowden, 29, was known among colleagues as a very gifted "geek," according to one of the sources, who added, "This guy's really good with his fingers on the keyboard. He's really good."

His job as a systems administrator would have afforded Snowden very wide access to servers containing classified information at the NSA, and possibly other U.S. intelligence agencies, the same source said, without giving specifics.

U.S. officials do not yet know the extent to which Snowden was able to access intelligence databases, nor have they identified all the secret material he might have downloaded before leaving for Hong Kong, according to three sources.

Several sources said that as a systems administrator, Snowden would have been unable to actively spy on people, even though he told the Guardian newspaper, "I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authority to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President."

Snowden already had a Top Secret clearance before he joined Booz Allen in April, two sources said, adding that he likely obtained that clearance - which involves passing a polygraph exam - when he previously worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.

For his first week or two with Booz Allen, Snowden attended training sessions near Fort Meade, the Maryland military installation where NSA headquarters is located and where numerous agency contractors have offices.

After that, Snowden moved to take up his assignment with a company team based at the NSA installation in Hawaii. He was only on the job for around four weeks when he told his employers he was ill and requested leave without pay, the sources said.

When Booz Allen checked in with him, Snowden said he was suffering from epilepsy and needed more time off. When he failed to return after a longer period, and the company could not find him, it notified intelligence officials because of Snowden's high-level security clearance, one of the sources said.

Government agents spent several days in the field trying to find Snowden, according to the source, but they were unable to do so before the first news story based on Snowden's revelations appeared in the Guardian and then in the Washington Post.

The government did not know Snowden was the source for the stories until he admitted it on Sunday, the sources said.

A spokesman for Booz Allen Hamilton said the company had no comment beyond its earlier statements. Booz had previously said it fired Snowden for violating its "code of ethics and firm policy."
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:58 PM   #8
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Feds hunted for Snowden in days before NSA programs went public


(Reuters) - U.S. government investigators began an urgent search for Edward Snowden several days before the first media reports were published on the government's secret surveillance programs, people familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.

Snowden, who has admitted to providing details of the top-secret programs, had worked on assignment at a Hawaii facility run by the National Security Agency for about four weeks before he said he was ill and requested leave without pay, according to the sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

When Snowden failed to return, that prompted a hunt for the contractor, first by his employer Booz Allen Hamilton and then by the U.S. government, they said.

Snowden, 29, was known among colleagues as a very gifted "geek," according to one of the sources, who added, "This guy's really good with his fingers on the keyboard. He's really good."

His job as a systems administrator would have afforded Snowden very wide access to servers containing classified information at the NSA, and possibly other U.S. intelligence agencies, the same source said, without giving specifics.

U.S. officials do not yet know the extent to which Snowden was able to access intelligence databases, nor have they identified all the secret material he might have downloaded before leaving for Hong Kong, according to three sources.

Several sources said that as a systems administrator, Snowden would have been unable to actively spy on people, even though he told the Guardian newspaper, "I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authority to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President."

Snowden already had a Top Secret clearance before he joined Booz Allen in April, two sources said, adding that he likely obtained that clearance - which involves passing a polygraph exam - when he previously worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.

For his first week or two with Booz Allen, Snowden attended training sessions near Fort Meade, the Maryland military installation where NSA headquarters is located and where numerous agency contractors have offices.

After that, Snowden moved to take up his assignment with a company team based at the NSA installation in Hawaii. He was only on the job for around four weeks when he told his employers he was ill and requested leave without pay, the sources said.

When Booz Allen checked in with him, Snowden said he was suffering from epilepsy and needed more time off. When he failed to return after a longer period, and the company could not find him, it notified intelligence officials because of Snowden's high-level security clearance, one of the sources said.

Government agents spent several days in the field trying to find Snowden, according to the source, but they were unable to do so before the first news story based on Snowden's revelations appeared in the Guardian and then in the Washington Post.

The government did not know Snowden was the source for the stories until he admitted it on Sunday, the sources said.

A spokesman for Booz Allen Hamilton said the company had no comment beyond its earlier statements. Booz had previously said it fired Snowden for violating its "code of ethics and firm policy."
This article is just filled with BS and CYA.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:59 PM   #9
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This article is just a filled with BS and CYA.
beats reading that fabricated crap you wrote.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:03 PM   #10
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:04 PM   #11
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Holy. Shit.

Right after the Boston Marathon bombing, didn't Beck give Obama 24 hours to come clean about something or else Beck would release a bunch of damning evidence? Still waiting on that.
I have no idea what Glenn said after the BM Bombing. I stumbled onto this on face book. thought it would make for a good laugh. Tomorrow I will listen to his show for the first time though. Im sitting on pins & needles.



edit/ & what ever it is? Will be more informative then BRCs post
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