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Old 06-13-2013, 07:40 PM  
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Nine Inch Nails New Album, "Hesitation Marks" Available on 9/3/13

Any other NIN fans here? Trent will be releasing a new album, "Hesitation Marks." available on 9/3/13. The single (youtube below) is titled, "Came Back Haunted." I think it's alright. Not totally thrilled, but it's not bad. If anything, it's refreshing to hear new NIN stuff in general. IMO, you can hear the Skinny Puppy influence in this song. Also kind of reminds me of what little I've heard from his "prior to NIN" band, Exotic Birds. Can't pinpoint why, exactly.




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Old 06-14-2013, 09:41 PM   #46
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You're not funny. You're just an idiot.

It's not surprising that someone of your extremely limited intellect can't understand the difference between the growth of an artist versus selling out to the fans in order to continue to earn money.

Not surprising at all. Oh, and way to dumb down a great thread.
And you're a know it all douche. Almost every band I like I prefer their first 2-3 albums. And almost every example you gave was stupid. Is STP more popular now than when they first hit the scene? Is Soungarden? Do you think FF were ever as popular as Nirvana? Did Sabbath sell more Ozzy albums or Dio albums? Did VH sell more albums with DLR or Hagar?

Just because a band changes (or "grows" to you) it doesn't mean they're better, and more often than not they're never as good. My favorite NIN album is still Pretty Hate Machine, but they've had a lot of good ones since then. If they would have tried to dramatically change their sound they would have lost all of their fans and flopped big time.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:56 PM   #47
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The Beatles - Old stuff was better.
I prefer the early work to the hippie-era.

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The Rolling Stones - Can't comment, never cared for more than a few songs.
Anything that classic rock radio has repeatedly shoved down your gullet, throw right to the curb; the Stones have a very good body of work outside of that shit.

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The Who - Old stuff was better.
See above. Exact same scenario


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Led Zeppelin - Old stuff was better.
I thought it was all "old stuff"? Unless you count the Page and Plant-thing.

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The Eagles - ****ing suck, don't care.
Yeah, those mother****ers aren't on the playlist and haven't been since I was like...10.
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The Police - Old stuff was better.
I like the whole body of original Police work.

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Black Sabbath - Ozzie was way better than Dio.
To me, Sabbath is about what Iommi is doing. Yeah, the classic stuff is legendary, but I've heard some good "no Ozzy" cuts too. "Zero the Hero" comes to mind.

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Rush - Who cares
Being beat to death with Rush is nevar a pleasant experience. That said, it's always a good concert and sounds phenominal.

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Van Halen - DLR was 1000 X's better than Hagar.
But...but...GARY CHERONE! Yeah, No Dave = GTFO, please...

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Nirvana 1000 X's better than Foo Fighters
I saw Nirvana open for 24/7 Spyz at the Outhouse in 1989. They were touring as a four piece at the time, and I remeber Novaselic trying to crack jokes with the audience before their set, and just getting raped CP-style as a result. They did a good set, and I still prefer "Bleach" over the rest of their shit. The Fighters are the closet thing to this "evolving band" concept Dane speaks of that I can relate to. They've been involved in working with some very diverse artists, and more importantly; making it work.

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STP - Old stuff was better.
I respect the DeLeo brothers as musicians, but aside from a song or two; meh.

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Soundgarden - Old stuff was better.
Sweet Jesus yes. I'm sorry; did Soungarden record an album after "Louder Than Love"? None that I care to hear, thx!

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Heart - Who cares
I'm not taking a stance on this.

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Deep Purple - Old stuff was better.
"Highway Star/Space Trucking"

Next band please!
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:56 PM   #48
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I would doubt that if it happens, it happens anytime soon. The "band" (Brad, Timmy and Tom) all get along really well and are great friends. Zach is an "outsider" and prone to do his own thing.

I probably shouldn't share this but at two different times in my life, I shared a space with the Rage guys. They were all great dudes and were a blast to watch in a small room. But that said, I never met or saw Zach even once. The band would rehearse all the time, write new songs, etc. but Zach was never around.

That's not too uncommon, because singers are the last ingredient to a band and there's no reason why a singer should blow out his voice while the band is rehearsing and preparing for the studio or the road. But I *never* saw Zach, which I always thought was odd.
that's all in line with what I've heard over the years. zack contributed to what 'made' rage rage, but... he always had his mind on different things really. too bad, really, and I get the feeling that his passion really lies in the other areas of 'activism' that he's into.

too bad it didn't work out with audioslave... loved the direction they were going toward, but oh well.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:05 PM   #49
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too bad it didn't work out with audioslave... loved the direction they were going toward, but oh well.
I really liked the first Audioslave record but it was destined to fail because once again, there were two factions: "The Band" and "The Singer".

"The Band" severely compromised after the first record. They went for more of Cornell's "singer/songwriter" approach, which is why you hear less "riff" oriented tracks and more "songs". They also went with Brendan O'Brien as a producer, one of Cornell's friends.

By the third album, it was nearly all Cornell. The band would be in one room jamming out killer, funky riffs and while Cornell was in another room working out songs on his acoustic guitar.

I'm sure you can tell by the album who won out.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:10 PM   #50
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And you're a know it all douche. Almost every band I like I prefer their first 2-3 albums. And almost every example you gave was stupid.


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Is STP more popular now than when they first hit the scene? Is Soungarden?
And once again, you misunderstand the word "Artist". Contrary to your beliefs, bands, especially those with artistic band members, prefer to do what they want with their music as opposed to chasing after their fans.

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Do you think FF were ever as popular as Nirvana?
Is this a trick question? Foo Fighters have sold tens of millions more records than Nirvana. Nirvana's second record only sold two million copies. Did Nirvana ever sell out Wembly night after night?

Regardless, it's not about selling records: It's about expressing yourself and growing as an artist. You don't seem to even understand that simple concept.

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Did Sabbath sell more Ozzy albums or Dio albums? Did VH sell more albums with DLR or Hagar?
Who cares?

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Just because a band changes (or "grows" to you) it doesn't mean they're better, and more often than not they're never as good.
That's because you're a simpleton that would rather have his favorite bands remain static rather than grow and change.

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My favorite NIN album is still Pretty Hate Machine, but they've had a lot of good ones since then. If they would have tried to dramatically change their sound they would have lost all of their fans and flopped big time.
Again, who cares?
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:13 PM   #51
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Album being released tomorrow. The reviews I've read from sources who have already heard it seem to suggest that this album is the best NIN stuff since The Fragile and/or The Downward Spiral. I'm interested/excited about it.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:26 PM   #52
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Ive had it about a week, haven't had a chance to listen to it much but what Ive heard is really good.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:38 PM   #53
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Ive had it about a week, haven't had a chance to listen to it much but what Ive heard is really good.
Trent Reznor speaks on value of music: “It costs 10 bucks, or go **** yourself.”

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/0...****-yourself/


“Nine Inch Nails feels bigger than it ever has… Is it because we’re on Columbia? Is it scarcity? I don’t know, but it doesn’t feel bigger in the sense that we’ve desperately adopted some new clothing style. It feels organic, and it feels good not to be worrying about whether or not we shipped vinyl to the cool record store in Prague. I know that what we’re doing flies in the face of the Kickstarter Amanda-Palmer-Start-a-Revolution thing, which is fine for her, but I’m not super-comfortable with the idea of Ziggy Stardust shaking his cup for scraps. I’m not saying offering things for free or pay-what-you-can is wrong. I’m saying my personal feeling is that my album’s not a dime. It’s not a buck. I made it as well as I could, and it costs 10 bucks, or go **** yourself.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:49 AM   #54
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I made it about ten seconds into that. That guy got so full of himself. They were nuts live in the Pretty Hate Machine days.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:50 AM   #55
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Trent Reznor speaks on value of music: “It costs 10 bucks, or go **** yourself.”

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/0...****-yourself/


“Nine Inch Nails feels bigger than it ever has… Is it because we’re on Columbia? Is it scarcity? I don’t know, but it doesn’t feel bigger in the sense that we’ve desperately adopted some new clothing style. It feels organic, and it feels good not to be worrying about whether or not we shipped vinyl to the cool record store in Prague. I know that what we’re doing flies in the face of the Kickstarter Amanda-Palmer-Start-a-Revolution thing, which is fine for her, but I’m not super-comfortable with the idea of Ziggy Stardust shaking his cup for scraps. I’m not saying offering things for free or pay-what-you-can is wrong. I’m saying my personal feeling is that my album’s not a dime. It’s not a buck. I made it as well as I could, and it costs 10 bucks, or go **** yourself.
What are your thoughts on that, Dane? I'd give my own if I weren't drawing such mental blanks lately, so my thinking may need to be sparked on this one.
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And that is one of my favorite albums I liked Broken and Fixed, but the rest got bad.
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And that is one of my favorite albums I liked Broken and Fixed, but the rest got bad.
You didn't like The Fragile or The Downward Spiral? I thought there were some hidden gems on With Teeth, but I can understand why people aren't fans of that one. I'm not much of a fan of Year Zero (with an exception of a couple songs), haven't really given Ghosts the time yet and really didn't care for The Slip. I pre-ordered it on Itunes and my shit is downloading it right now...heard it is very Pretty Hate Machine-ish.
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I liked NIN back in the day -- it broke sonic ground. But the direction TR went was not so interesting to me -- not to say it was bad, just didn't inspire hitting the "buy" button imo.

this new works seems to capture NIN sentiment -- within NIN confines it feels new, I'm just in a different place now as opposed to the eighties. I'll listen to it curiously and see if it finds it's way into my collection.
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I liked NIN back in the day -- it broke sonic ground. But the direction TR went was not so interesting to me -- not to say it was bad, just didn't inspire hitting the "buy" button imo.

this new works seems to capture NIN sentiment -- within NIN confines it feels new, I'm just in a different place now as opposed to the eighties. I'll listen to it curiously and see if it finds it's way into my collection.
That's a pretty cool way of approaching it...I'll try to do the same.
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“Nine Inch Nails feels bigger than it ever has… Is it because we’re on Columbia? Is it scarcity? I don’t know, but it doesn’t feel bigger in the sense that we’ve desperately adopted some new clothing style. It feels organic, and it feels good not to be worrying about whether or not we shipped vinyl to the cool record store in Prague. I know that what we’re doing flies in the face of the Kickstarter Amanda-Palmer-Start-a-Revolution thing, which is fine for her, but I’m not super-comfortable with the idea of Ziggy Stardust shaking his cup for scraps. I’m not saying offering things for free or pay-what-you-can is wrong. I’m saying my personal feeling is that my album’s not a dime. It’s not a buck. I made it as well as I could, and it costs 10 bucks, or go **** yourself.
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