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Old 06-16-2013, 10:37 PM  
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While you are looking at phone records and emails....

It's over 800 pages, no one has read it, it's expensive, and it's full of dirty tricks to increase democrat voters. Deja vu all over again. The video is 20 minutes but well worth it.

http://clashdaily.com/2013/06/video-...-and-it-sucks/



We are being sold out by the senate. Rubio sucks balls. **** McCain. **** Graham.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:50 PM   #2
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This NSA hysteria is really distracting people from immigration, the IRS, and the war on reporters, which seem to be more important/real scandals to me. The NSA thing is important to look into, but I don't think there's much to find there.
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:00 PM   #3
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You need to be cursing Mitch McConnell too. He advanced the darn thing in the Senate.

I wonder if the House will pass it. If they do, we live in Post America now!
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:03 PM   #4
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I am hopeful immigration reform does pass and if it does much thanks will go to Rubio, McCain and his lover Graham.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:57 AM   #5
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This NSA hysteria is really distracting people from immigration, the IRS, and the war on reporters, which seem to be more important/real scandals to me. The NSA thing is important to look into, but I don't think there's much to find there.
It doesn't matter what's being "looked into" nothing is going happen any way. This is all political theatre, a dog and pony show.

Sure, real crimes have occured, but the Vichy Regime will do NOTHING.

Notice has been served by Washington DC: Politicians and unelected beauracrats are above the law, and if you dare to point a finger at it, they will destroy you and they have the power to do it.

The only solution is another revolution.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:00 AM   #6
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I am hopeful immigration reform does pass and if it does much thanks will go to Rubio, McCain and his lover Graham.


An oxymoron straight out of Orwell's 1984.

Only a statist stooge would even dignify such an absurd term and use it.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:19 AM   #7
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Bad when we have to hope the House will prevail and send this immigration thing into the shitter. Boehner has no balls but maybe the rest do.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:40 AM   #8
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I am hopeful immigration reform does pass and if it does much thanks will go to Rubio, McCain and his lover Graham.
If you are Republican how could you not be for immigration reform, if only for partisan politics reasons.

Surely your not all stupid. You see the demographic numbers. Whites are a minority in 2045. In 2025 there will be more non-white children under 5 than white kids. If you don't expand the party you will just be a regional party and soon after the 21st century Whig's.

How about doing it for the selfish reasons? We can't deport 11 million people. Thats just not realistic. And even it was, what if they resist? Talk about a cluster****. The American people will not stand for it after they start seeing the scenes on TV.

How about doing it for the economy? We need the majority of those 11 million people to do the jobs we won't do. If they were smart they would strike until immigration reform is passed. When there are sparse vegetables and fruit in the grocery store and construction is at a standstill we would see how valuable they are to the economy. We get 11 million new tax payers that will pay fines and taxes for years before they get any benefits.


Illegal immigration from Mexico is basically zero right now. Now is the time to do reform. If the republicans don't get on board........ well the Whigs were big back in the day too.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:45 AM   #9
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If you are Republican how could you not be for immigration reform


Tell us about the "affordable" care act while you're at it.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:54 AM   #10
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How about doing it for the selfish reasons?



In other words, abandon all your principles and become a liberal!

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Old 06-17-2013, 08:29 AM   #11
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If anyone in DC wants a bill that President Obama would sign—it's automatically a BAD bill!

Immigration should be dealt with on an individual issue basis—not one large reform bill where too much gets buried. Let us see how each issue is handled.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:41 AM   #12
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In other words, abandon all your principles and become a liberal!

What principle are you abandoning?
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:48 AM   #13
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If you are Republican how could you not be for immigration reform, if only for partisan politics reasons.

Surely your not all stupid. You see the demographic numbers. Whites are a minority in 2045. In 2025 there will be more non-white children under 5 than white kids. If you don't expand the party you will just be a regional party and soon after the 21st century Whig's.

How about doing it for the selfish reasons? We can't deport 11 million people. Thats just not realistic. And even it was, what if they resist? Talk about a cluster****. The American people will not stand for it after they start seeing the scenes on TV.

How about doing it for the economy? We need the majority of those 11 million people to do the jobs we won't do. If they were smart they would strike until immigration reform is passed. When there are sparse vegetables and fruit in the grocery store and construction is at a standstill we would see how valuable they are to the economy. We get 11 million new tax payers that will pay fines and taxes for years before they get any benefits.


Illegal immigration from Mexico is basically zero right now. Now is the time to do reform. If the republicans don't get on board........ well the Whigs were big back in the day too.
Most often these things are understandable mistakes. Other times it's wise to make sure you use the proper form.
Like when you're calling other people stupid.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:01 AM   #14
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If you are Republican how could you not be for immigration reform, if only for partisan politics reasons.

Surely your not all stupid. You see the demographic numbers. Whites are a minority in 2045. In 2025 there will be more non-white children under 5 than white kids. If you don't expand the party you will just be a regional party and soon after the 21st century Whig's.

How about doing it for the selfish reasons? We can't deport 11 million people. Thats just not realistic. And even it was, what if they resist? Talk about a cluster****. The American people will not stand for it after they start seeing the scenes on TV.

How about doing it for the economy? We need the majority of those 11 million people to do the jobs we won't do. If they were smart they would strike until immigration reform is passed. When there are sparse vegetables and fruit in the grocery store and construction is at a standstill we would see how valuable they are to the economy. We get 11 million new tax payers that will pay fines and taxes for years before they get any benefits.


Illegal immigration from Mexico is basically zero right now. Now is the time to do reform. If the republicans don't get on board........ well the Whigs were big back in the day too.

What if you take your head out of your ass and consider the impact on the country and no some stupid party line crap for a change? We are broke, getting broker, and these numbnuts want to hand the keys to the safe to 11tybillion mexicans.
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Most often these things are understandable mistakes. Other times it's wise to make sure you use the proper form.
Like when you're calling other people stupid.
If the Republican party doesn't get on board with immigration reform they are stupid. It's a really stupid decision.

I wasn't speaking to individuals or everything the Republican party believes is stupid.
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