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Old 06-17-2013, 09:27 AM  
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46 Shot - 7 Dead - Thank Goodness for Strict Gun Laws

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Bloody weekend violence leaves 7 dead, 46 shot

As she headed out the door Sunday morning, Adrianne Wilberton put on a brave face. It was time to tell one of her sons the news, and she didn’t want him hearing it from anyone else.

But her composure unraveled as she walked toward the car, a barrage of neighbors hugging her on the way out of her apartment. By the time she reached the front lawn, the mother of six was in tears.

“Our son is dead! Oh Jesus!” the 57-year-old screamed, referring to her other son, Cortez, who was killed earlier that morning on Chicago’s West Side. “Oh my God! Oh my God! We were just talking.”

At least 33 people were shot — six of them fatally — Saturday afternoon through Father's Day Sunday, stretching from 94th Street and Loomis Avenue on the South Side up to about North Avenue and North Pulaski Road on the Northwest Side, according to authorities. The youngest person who was killed during one of the bloodiest weekends in Chicago this year was 16.

Shootings from Friday afternoon into Saturday left another 13 people shot, 1 fatally. The combined tally resulted in 46 people shot, and seven killed this weekend. Last year at about the same time, there were 53 people shot, nine fatally in one weekend.

The rash of violent crime came as Chicago has seen a large dip in overall homicide and shooting numbers so far this year.

When asked whether this weekend's shooting numbers cast doubt on the department's crime-fighting strategies, Chicago police spokesman Adam Collins insisted they are working, noting the city has so far in 2013 posted its lowest homicide totals in years.

Collins also reiterated a position that police Superintendent Garry McCarthy has expressed publicly throughout the year when discussing the department's crime-fighting efforts. “There's going to be good days, and there's going to be bad days, which is why we've been calling this progress, not victory,” said Collins, who pointed out drops in overall crime.

Across the city, reminders of the bloody weekend literally stained some of Chicago’s streets. In the city’s Little Village neighborhood, 15 lit memorial candles stood in blood where Ricardo Herrera, 21, was fatally wounded and two others shot on the 2500 block of South Ridgeway Avenue.

About five miles away, a long trail of blood remained splattered in a Northwest Side alley — and on the bumper of a nearby car — where 16-year-old Kevin Rivera tried to run from a gunman on a bicycle, authorities told the Tribune.

Rivera’s family was planning to move in two weeks from their sometimes violent section of the Hermosa neighborhood, and a social worker was enrolling the teenager in the city's summer jobs program.

But late Saturday night, someone shot Rivera in the 4100 block of West North Avenue, police said. He attempted to run but collapsed a few feet away. The boy, who lived a few blocks away from the scene, was pronounced dead about 1:35 a.m. Sunday at Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center, authorities said.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:58 PM   #61
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Agreement and support does not equate to responsibility in the context of what we're talking about. And the fact that everyone has backtracked on their wording in this thread tends to support that.
So, IYO, one must actually vote for a law (and it must pass) to make it theirs?
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:59 PM   #62
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Do you mean aside from the fact that he was a member of the Illinois Senate from January 1997 until 2008? If that's not enough, I'm not sure we'll come to an agreement on what it takes to provide proof.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:00 PM   #63
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Agreement and support does not equate to responsibility in the context of what we're talking about. And the fact that everyone has backtracked on their wording in this thread tends to support that.
I hope that isn't aimed at me.. my first post on this made it clear that ...
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:47 PM   #64
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So, IYO, one must actually vote for a law (and it must pass) to make it theirs?
Not quite. One must vote for a law, and it must pass, in order to hold that person responsible for the outcome that the law is trying to address. Making it "Theirs" in a symbolic sense is irrelevant. Everyone knows Obama isn't pro gun. But if he hasn't actually taken action to carry out his opinion on gun control, then we can't hold him responsible for anything other than having a shitty opinion.

Chicago is a violent shithole, but it's not because of "Obama Gun Regulation".
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But if he hasn't actually taken action to carry out his opinion on gun control
But he has and did in Chicago. He failed.
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But he has and did in Chicago. He failed.
So you're criticizing Obama for what he didn't accomplish?
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So you're criticizing Obama for what he didn't accomplish?
No, I'm thanking Obama for failing to help enact even more restrictive gun laws in Illinois.
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No, I'm thanking Obama for failing to help enact even more restrictive gun laws in Illinois.
Do you agree that is different than assigning responsibility to Obama for the current state of affairs?
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