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Old 06-18-2013, 09:50 AM  
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Senate set to vote on border fence amendment in immigration bill

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...t-immigration/

A week into the immigration debate, the Senate has finally set up showdowns Tuesday afternoon on some of the biggest questions, including whether to build the full 700-mile fence Congress approved seven years ago, but never followed through on.

Sen. John Thune, South Dakota Republican, has offered an amendment that would require 350 miles of two-tier border fencing be built before illegal immigrants can gain legal status, and for another 350 miles to be built before they can get green cards.

Seven years ago, during a previous immigration debate, Congress — including then-Sen. Barack Obama — voted overwhelmingly to build that much two-tier fencing along the 1,950-mile U.S.-Mexico border. But in 2007 Congress quietly backed off and gave the Bush administration the authority to cut the number of miles, and to scrap the two-tier fence.

Instead, the border now has 651 miles of barriers, and only 352 miles of that is an actual fence to keep pedestrians out. The other 299 miles are vehicle blockades that still allow wildlife, and people, to cross unhindered.

Homeland security officials say they are comfortable with the amount and mix of fencing, but many lawmakers say more is needed — and Mr. Thune’s amendment will give them a chance to have a say.

Still, it is expected to fail as the Gang of Eight senators who wrote the immigration bill defends the core of its deal, which is to offer quick legal status to illegal immigrants but withhold full citizenship rights until after more money is spent on security. They argue that waiting until 350 miles of full fence is built would delay legalization too long.

Senators will also vote Tuesday on three other amendments: One would expand immigration benefits for adoptees, another would add Indian tribe representatives to a border oversight panel, and a third would stop any legalization until the government completes a biometric entry-exit system that Congress first demanded in 1996, but which is still undone.

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Old 06-18-2013, 09:52 AM   #2
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A good step but let's go the distance for comprehensive border control.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:03 AM   #3
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It would be so badass if we set up a huge(very tall) electric fence. I'd laugh my ass off watching all the mexicans try and climb that thing only to get the shit shocked out of them (like the little kid in Jurassic Park)
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:05 AM   #4
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:07 AM   #5
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They promised a border wall multiple times before. This is getting annoying.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:14 AM   #6
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It's said a border won't do it, or is too expensive...plus it doesn't handle the tunnels. What about some sort of electronic fence that works above and below? ( I'm not a tekkie so someone respond.)
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:15 AM   #7
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What's the cost?
It could be offset from military costs on our foreign invasions and excessive amount of military bases.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:21 AM   #8
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What's the cost?
I don't know and don't really care. Build it. I thought Obama loved shovel-ready jobs and building infrastructure.
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It would be so badass if we set up a huge(very tall) electric fence. I'd laugh my ass off watching all the mexicans try and climb that thing only to get the shit shocked out of them (like the little kid in Jurassic Park)
I'd be fine with mines.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:26 AM   #10
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So why did they back off in the first place from building this?
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:31 AM   #11
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It could be offset from military costs on our foreign invasions and excessive amount of military bases.
I think magic bean finding is just as likely.
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With all of the technology at our disposal I would think building a fence would be an antiquated notion that is really not effective...probably why both sides are trying to pass it.

If the NSA concentrated on the border half as much as they do our phone calls we'd see these people coming from miles and miles away.
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I don't know and don't really care. Build it. I thought Obama loved shovel-ready jobs and building infrastructure.
So you'd support it if it cost, say, $750 billion?
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So you'd support it if it cost, say, $750 billion?
Meh. I've heard something like $20 billion.
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Meh. I've heard something like $20 billion.
So you wouldnt?
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