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Old 06-21-2013, 10:09 PM  
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Would football be better if huddling was eliminated by reducing the play clock to 20 seconds?

Am I crazy to think that NFL teams shouldn't need to huddle? No other sport does it. NBA players don't draw up a play after every change of possession. It's boring as shit. It slows the game down. It's a complete waste of time.

Two reasons that it could actually happen.

1. The league is so worried about concussions that they might want to see the players get smaller. 325 pound D-Lineman won't exist. This could reduce the force in the collissions and reduce concussions.

2. The league is dying to figure out how to get more global appeal. The rest of the world loves soccer because it's a continuous game. When they see football, they get bored. It's funny because Americans think soccer is too boring because there isn't as much action, and they think football is boring because there's too much inaction. If you combined the superior action of football with the superior lack of inaction in soccer, that sport would take over the world.



Am I nuts? Should we eliminate the huddle?
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:22 AM   #46
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Right, but you're slowing down the players as well. They don't get to recover between plays. They don't get to sub.
Being tired leads to more injuries I promise you that.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:30 AM   #47
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people who have not at least played/coached this game at the college level should not get their grubby hands on it. hello roger.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:04 AM   #48
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Momentum=force times velocity. Getting drilled by a 260 pounder running a 4.58 is every bit as ruinous, if not more so, than getting pancaked by a Wilfork.
Close. Momentum=mass times velocity. Your point is a good one. I think the mass is more important than velocity for the repetitive collisions that linemen experience though.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:06 AM   #49
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The idea is more about making the game better. If everyone always played like Oregon, people would laugh at the idea of huddling between plays.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:16 AM   #50
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Do the same thing with baseball. 10 second clock between pitches, 20 second clock between batters.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:19 AM   #51
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Do the same thing with baseball. 10 second clock between pitches, 20 second clock between batters.
And get rid of the warmup games of catch between half innings.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:25 AM   #52
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I like the idea. Someone needs to start flying a banner over NFL stadiums, "NO MORE HUDDLES!"
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:48 AM   #53
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For all the shit the XFL tried, this would have been interesting.
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Close. Momentum=mass times velocity. Your point is a good one. I think the mass is more important than velocity for the repetitive collisions that linemen experience though.
I was originally going to type the force equation, then changed to momentum w/o the appropriate edit. This is why I was shitty at physics.
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And get rid of the warmup games of catch between half innings.
That is a terrible idea.
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For all the shit the XFL tried, this would have been interesting.
One XFL idea I liked was paying players to win games. I don't remember exactly how it worked, but I think there was a pot of money riding on each game and the winning team got to split it.
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One XFL idea I liked was paying players to win games. I don't remember exactly how it worked, but I think there was a pot of money riding on each game and the winning team got to split it.
What do you think playoff shares are?

The NFL has a bonus system in place for players who outperform their contracts. It's called performance-based bonuses. Burfict made almost 300K extra last year.
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What do you think playoff shares are?

The NFL has a bonus system in place for players who outperform their contracts. It's called performance-based bonuses. Burfict made almost 300K extra last year.
I understand that teams are allowed to include performance incentives in contracts now. I'd like to see it built into the system and be team oriented. Playoff shares are fine, but I'm talking about the regular season. Playoff shares pay for additional work based on each game they play. I want a portion of the player's normal non-playoff pay to come from each game they win.
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You obviously don't understand.

It's not a performance incentive in the contract. It's doled out from the league as a part of the CBA:

Players have been paid nearly $700 million cumulatively since the inception of the Performance-Based Pay program, which was implemented as part of the NFL's 2002 Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFL Players Association.
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