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Old 06-22-2013, 06:03 PM  
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The Iranians and Al-Quaeda fighting proxy war. Why would we want to stop that?

I'm confused on two points.

  1. If you kill 90K+ human beings with bullets, we will let it go. But, if you kill <200 with chemical weapons...... we are going to care now.
  2. Why in the **** in a million years would we arm groups that are publicly supporting Al-Quaeda just because they are Anti-Assad/Iranian?
Best guess I can come up with from reading the tea leaves is...............

  1. Because we publicly created a line in the sand, they crossed it. Lesson learned........... don't draw lines in the sand. Don't try to get me to buy into the moral authority angle. 90K died before we acted.
  2. The only theory that makes any sense is that our "friends" asked/pressured us to do this. The Saudi's, Jordainians, the Royals of Quatar, Kuwait etc. are worried about Iranian influence expanding in the ME.


I'm going to be with BE on this. We need to stay the **** out of Syria.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:32 PM   #2
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we are supposedly arming the moderates, not just to defeat assad, but to defeat the islamists after assad is forced out...

for that reason, and that reason only, i fully support arming the "moderate" rebels with whatever it takes to win both wars...
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:36 PM   #3
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I agree our Sunni "allies" are pushing for it. We might just be doing it to help speed the process of them killing eachother.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:40 PM   #4
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I'm going to be with BE on this. We need to stay the **** out of Syria.
Good for you!

AQ and Iran have always been enemies. But this is how the ally system works—it drags you into more wars.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:44 PM   #5
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Where is this fighting happening? Have I missed something?

And a general answer to #2 is that, if two enemies are fighting you help the weaker one to keep the fighting going as long as possible. It bleeds both sides down, distracts them, and you want the weaker one to take down the more powerful one if someone's going to win.

But again, where is this happening?
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:46 PM   #6
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we are supposedly arming the moderates, not just to defeat assad, but to defeat the islamists after assad is forced out...

for that reason, and that reason only, i fully support arming the "moderate" rebels with whatever it takes to win both wars...
Thats just not going to happen. Once we let those weapons get out of our hands, we have no idea where they are going to end up. Maybe in Afghanistan, maybe somewhere to attack us. This is just a bad idea.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:51 PM   #7
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Where is this fighting happening? Have I missed something?

And a general answer to #2 is that, if two enemies are fighting you help the weaker one to keep the fighting going as long as possible. It bleeds both sides down, distracts them, and you want the weaker one to take down the more powerful one if someone's going to win.

But again, where is this happening?
Syria

Orignated back in the Arab spring. A true uprising of people who wanted freedom like Egypt.

Assad is prompted up and supported militarily, socially and politically by the Iranians. Assad is not religious, just a dictator like his Dad. Loves power not promoting a holy war.

Once is started to drag out into a sectarian war, the groups that hate the Iranians took advantage of the void and supported the rebels with manpower, arms etc.

Shitties vs. Sunnis we want to stay as far from that mess as possible. We can't pick the "right" religious side.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:56 PM   #8
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If these fools would listen to WE (just ****ing once) this country wouldnt be in the same old messes time & time again
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We don't want it to stop. That is obvious from the actions we have taken/ not taken.
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we are supposedly arming the moderates, not just to defeat assad, but to defeat the islamists after assad is forced out...

for that reason, and that reason only, i fully support arming the "moderate" rebels with whatever it takes to win both wars...
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Where is this fighting happening? Have I missed something?

And a general answer to #2 is that, if two enemies are fighting you help the weaker one to keep the fighting going as long as possible. It bleeds both sides down, distracts them, and you want the weaker one to take down the more powerful one if someone's going to win.

But again, where is this happening?
Worked well with Iraq.
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moderate rebels....lmao

The fact Assad is the one who still has the support of the middle-class and religious minorities.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:56 PM   #13
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we are supposedly arming the moderates, not just to defeat assad, but to defeat the islamists after assad is forced out...

for that reason, and that reason only, i fully support arming the "moderate" rebels with whatever it takes to win both wars...
The problem with this idiot logic is that there is no way to 1) ensure the arms go to the 'moderates' , 2 ) make sure the arms stay with the 'moderates' and 3) be sure that the 'moderates' will establish power at all....4) heck we can't even be sure who are moderates and who aren't....I'll bet you 90% plus of the syrian sunni 'moderate rebels' support Hamas, believe that Israel should be destroyed, and think it is cool to do martyrdom operations...

Just look at egypt, or palestine, turkey, Libya or any other of the numerous places where Islamic governments have promised 'moderation' to see what will happen...
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moderate rebels....lmao

The fact Assad is the one who still has the support of the middle-class and religious minorities.
even BEP is smarter than Go Bowe...wow...
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:23 PM   #15
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moderate rebels....lmao

The fact Assad is the one who still has the support of the middle-class and religious minorities.
what's this?

i thought i was on ignore...
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