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Old 06-25-2013, 04:18 PM  
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Texas state senator in actual filibuster, not hiding behind threat of one.

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Old 06-25-2013, 04:19 PM   #2
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:23 PM   #3
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It's a wussy one though... only has to last 13 hours. If it wasn't for a funeral yesterday this would have had to go 34 hours.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:25 PM   #4
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:26 PM   #5
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It's a wussy one though... only has to last 13 hours. If it wasn't for a funeral yesterday this would have had to go 34 hours.
Does she get to pass the baton or eat candy bars?
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:30 PM   #6
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Does she get to pass the baton or eat candy bars?
No hard breaks but not sure if she can eat while doing it. But hell 13 hours is ridiculously easy.. if she doesn't last that long she needs to resign.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:32 PM   #7
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Will a woman be able to talk for 13 straight hours? Gee, I'm on the edge of my seat.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:32 PM   #8
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Wait, offering alternatives to abortion in the way of abstinence isn't related to the bill?
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:44 PM   #9
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No hard breaks but not sure if she can eat while doing it. But hell 13 hours is ridiculously easy.. if she doesn't last that long she needs to resign.
Compared to 30-odd hours, yeah it's easy. The link I posted sucks, but what I did see, someone was cockblocking her filibuster by saying what she was talking about(something to do with finances for Planned Parenthood or something) wasn't pertinent to the bill being argued. I wonder how strict the rules in these things are.? How close does she have to stay on point, and how obstructive her detractors can be. It should be like "three strikes you're out" for her or her time goes up, and every time someone raises an objection that's denied it's a ball or her time goes down.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:48 PM   #10
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Wait, offering alternatives to abortion in the way of abstinence isn't related to the bill?
See, yeah, they seem to be trying to break her pretty hard. Did people do this to Rand Paul? The rules may be different, but The Daily Show had clips of him and/or Rubio quoting movies and stuff.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:48 PM   #11
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Compared to 30-odd hours, yeah it's easy. The link I posted sucks, but what I did see, someone was cockblocking her filibuster by saying what she was talking about(something to do with finances for Planned Parenthood or something) wasn't pertinent to the bill being argued. I wonder how strict the rules in these things are.? How close does she have to stay on point, and how obstructive her detractors can be. It should be like "three strikes you're out" for her or her time goes up, and every time someone raises an objection that's denied it's a ball or her time goes down.
I'm clueless on Texas Senate rules so I can't help ya there.

The bill itself is interesting. I'm surprised it is as "controversial" as it is. It limits abortions to 20 weeks and has some conditions on where and who can provide them but nothing that seems as drastic as people are making it out to be. The line most often quoted is that the bill would reduce abortion providers from 47 in the state down to 5... well yeah that's true if NONE of the current providers want to update themselves to comply. Kind of a disingenuous argument.
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I'm clueless on Texas Senate rules so I can't help ya there.

The bill itself is interesting. I'm surprised it is as "controversial" as it is. It limits abortions to 20 weeks and has some conditions on where and who can provide them but nothing that seems as drastic as people are making it out to be. The line most often quoted is that the bill would reduce abortion providers from 47 in the state down to 5... well yeah that's true if NONE of the current providers want to update themselves to comply. Kind of a disingenuous argument.
The big deal I presume(besides the 20 week argument, which is way outside the viability part of Roe v Wade) is the for individual doctors to have admitting rights to a hospital within 30 miles. Which in Texas, is hard to do.
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The big deal I presume(besides the 20 week argument, which is way outside the viability part of Roe v Wade) is the for individual doctors to have admitting rights to a hospital within 30 miles. Which in Texas, is hard to do.
I can see that and it isn't something I would care too much about but I can also see how that would be a genuine health and safety issue.
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I'm clueless on Texas Senate rules so I can't help ya there.

The bill itself is interesting. I'm surprised it is as "controversial" as it is. It limits abortions to 20 weeks and has some conditions on where and who can provide them but nothing that seems as drastic as people are making it out to be. The line most often quoted is that the bill would reduce abortion providers from 47 in the state down to 5... well yeah that's true if NONE of the current providers want to update themselves to comply. Kind of a disingenuous argument.
Yeah, but I think I heard most of that comes from them needing to be able to preform surgery on site. I rather not argue whether that's needed to safety of not, but I will say that's not something easy to comply with (especially for a state that prides itself on less regulation). In the least, I'd hope places are given time to work their way toward compliance. Like, you can't preform later term abortions until you have surgery ability.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:01 PM   #15
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I can see that and it isn't something I would care too much about but I can also see how that would be a genuine health and safety issue.
I assume you're in favor of the bill?
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