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Old 06-26-2013, 07:16 AM  
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SCOTUS Gay Marriage Opinions

DOMA - Federal law which allows one state to refuse to recognize a marriage from another state, and which federally bans gay marriage.

Section 3 of DOMA is unconstitutional. The rest of DOMA still remains. This means that federal law must recognize same-sex marriage, but since Section 2 remains standing, states are still free to refuse to recognize a marriage from another state. That will likely be challenged in a future court case.

5-4 decision, Kennedy and the 4 liberals. The conservatives are split with 3 dissents.


Prop 8 - California Gay Marriage ban.

The 9th circuit appeal is dismissed due to lack of standing. We now know definitively that if the state government refuses to defend a state proposition, the prop sponsers can still go to court, but they can not appeal if they lose. The decision by the 9th circuit is also gone. Judge Vaughn Walker's ruling stands, and is final. Gay Marriage is legal in CA.

5-4 decision, Roberts, Scalia, and 3 of the liberals. Kennedy, Alito, Thomas, and Sotomayor would have found standing and proceeded to the merits. The question on whether a fundamental right to gay marriage exists countrywide will have to wait for another day.

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:47 AM   #76
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:47 AM   #77
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:53 AM   #78
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You're not answering the question. If it remains banned, how will that affect my marriage? It won't. So why should I give a rat's ass if they get it legalized? Out of the goodness of my heart? It doesn't benefit me.
Seems about right.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:56 AM   #79
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This was the correct decision. As long as they don't force religious institutions to perform gay marriages then I have no problems with this.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:58 AM   #80
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I can't really foresee reasonable situations where that would happen.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:07 PM   #81
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I can't really foresee reasonable situations where that would happen.
Obama felt he needed to make a point today in saying he won' force such. No that he legally could anyway but nonetheless.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:09 PM   #82
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:12 PM   #83
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Seems about right.
You agree, or you understand he's an incredible selfish prick.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:33 PM   #84
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This was the correct decision. As long as they don't force religious institutions to perform gay marriages then I have no problems with this.
It's coming of course, but you were too weak-kneed when the time called for it that you'll soon have to deal with things "you have a problem with" when they're foisted on you.

The gun and abortion lobbies know this well. That's why they give no inch of compromise. They're no dummies.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:16 PM   #85
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It's coming of course, but you were too weak-kneed when the time called for it that you'll soon have to deal with things "you have a problem with" when they're foisted on you.

The gun and abortion lobbies know this well. That's why they give no inch of compromise. They're no dummies.
The vegans and the furbies too. That's why they are so hard core.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:45 PM   #86
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Idiocracy scripted this out pretty well - all the dumbasses are celebrating the dumbing down of America, one step at a time.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:59 PM   #87
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You agree, or you understand he's an incredible selfish prick.
Seems like the kind of argument I'd expect from someone like him on the right.
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It's coming of course, but you were too weak-kneed when the time called for it that you'll soon have to deal with things "you have a problem with" when they're foisted on you.

The gun and abortion lobbies know this well. That's why they give no inch of compromise. They're no dummies.
Yeah but that doesn't personally affect you so who gives a shit, right?
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Funny how people upset about this ruling usually claim to be in favor of states' rights.
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