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Old 06-29-2013, 06:23 PM  
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Home security/defense

Spinoff of the woman getting beaten in her home. That thread got me thinking, and I wondered what everyone had to protect their loved ones/family. I have an ADT security system with motion detectors, I also have two pitbulls, both the wife and I have numerous firearms and have taken firearm training.

That thread really made me more content paying $50 a month for 24/7 monitoring/protection of my family and home.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:11 PM   #121
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(Personal opinion here - not stats.) The other issue I see is that most burglaries are intended to steal shit, not to kill people. While some burglars may carry a weapon in case they end up having to confront people, their primary intent is to steal things of value. Even when confronted, most aren't going to immediately want to kill someone if they don't have to. They'll make threats, they'll point a gun at you, but they're not going to pull a trigger unless they're really feeling threatened. And a homeowner pointing a gun at someone is decidedly threatening.

Will you get to them first? Maybe. But there's a good chance shots wouldn't have been fired in the first place had the homeowner not gone in guns blazing.

Spend a weekend watching that show "LOCKUP" Think it comes on MSLSD .. Then tell me how you feel about your odds of wondering if someone will kill you just by the way you look or not...

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Old 06-30-2013, 04:13 PM   #122
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How bout your pretty wife there with you while you are negotiating with someone in your house with a gun... What ya gonna do when he tells your wife to get naked and come over there and suck his dick?

You aren't gonna tell him shit because if you do you are dead... And you still may be dead and her too soon after he finishes with your wife...

Sound harsh?

Think about it.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:18 PM   #123
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:24 PM   #124
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To be clear, I'm not talking about owning a gun in general (and keeping it in a garage, etc.). If you want to own guns for hunting, fun, or in case of some sort of all-out war, more power to you.

I'm specifically talking about having one in the house for self-defense, and I'd think most people don't really enjoy shooting one in their house (except possibly frazod).
I can assure you, it was not enjoyable.

Neither is eternally being the punchline of a Jeff Foxworthy joke.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:50 PM   #125
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I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:54 PM   #126
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I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.
They come to steal your gun too... Just hand it to them when they walk in
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:54 PM   #127
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I don't have any shit worth stealing
and that has worked out so far


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Old 06-30-2013, 04:55 PM   #128
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I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.
When they entered your house they threaten your family.

Criminals don't think in a linear manner. Shit happens when crimes are being committed.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:40 PM   #129
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I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.


Hold on criminal let me get my gun.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:49 PM   #130
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How bout your pretty wife there with you while you are negotiating with someone in your house with a gun... What ya gonna do when he tells your wife to get naked and come over there and suck his dick?

You aren't gonna tell him shit because if you do you are dead... And you still may be dead and her too soon after he finishes with your wife...

Sound harsh?

Think about it.
Come on Ant-Gun folks... I want to read the answer to the above quote
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:53 PM   #131
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They come to steal your gun too... Just hand it to them when they walk in
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Hold on criminal let me get my gun.
I guess that logic is pretty flawed. You would have to get the gun immediately because there wouldn't be another option later to do so.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:03 PM   #132
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I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.
The problem is, when they come in, you don't know what they're after.

There really isn't a simple answer as to how to best handle the situation.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:07 PM   #133
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The problem is, when they come in, you don't know what they're after.

There really isn't a simple answer as to how to best handle the situation.
Come through a locked door in NC and you are bought and paid for no matter what your intentions are..

You have No duty to retreat
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:33 PM   #134
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Come through a locked door in NC and you are bought and paid for no matter what your intentions are..

You have No duty to retreat
And IMO it's your right to handle it in such a manner. But...

1. Not everyone is capable of taking another human life
2. The law doesn't always necessarily agree with you
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:38 PM   #135
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You can always hold the gun on them and call the police to handle the situation.
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