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Old 07-01-2013, 07:50 PM  
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:10 PM   #16
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:10 PM   #17
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If you're talking about an individual, I'd agree. If you're talking about an Edward R. Jones, Merrill-Lynch, etc., I'd disagree.

Most good financial advisers that I know have a $2 million dollar minimum initial investment requirement.
The guy I work with isn't associated with any firm. I started with $250,000 which I inherited from my grandfather. My experience has been great. I understand if others haven't been so lucky.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:12 PM   #18
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I work in the industry. Our advisors sell the product I work on. We tell them what they can say and how they can say it (and our advisor base has a higher financial knowledge than most). Just about every financial advisor works off of a software package that tells them what they should recommend you. They are sales people.
My advisor isn't associated with a firm, but I wasn't aware of these practices by the large firms in the industry. Thanks for the information.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:16 PM   #19
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The guy I work with isn't associated with any firm. I started with $250,000 which I inherited from my grandfather. My experience has been great. I understand if others haven't been so lucky.
That explains it. He's probably a really sharp guy that's in tune with the market that bases his decisions on experience instead of computer models.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:22 PM   #20
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You have to find someone with excellent referrals and build a relationship with them. If they're good, they realize they work for you and profits for you is how they get paid. Have you ever worked with a financial advisor or are you speaking out of your ass.
Just noticed the profits for you is how they get paid part. That is false for most. Advisors either have a commission base or a fee base (can be a combo but for simplicity of this post let's just say either or). An advisor either gets paid when they sell you a product (life insurance for example) or execute a transaction (buying A class mutual fund shares for example) or they have a fee based relationship that is based on assets under management (AUM is the industry acronym).

FINRA does not permit an advisor to have an arrangement where the advisor gets a share of profits.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:24 PM   #21
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My advisor isn't associated with a firm, but I wasn't aware of these practices by the large firms in the industry. Thanks for the information.
He has to be to sell financial products/manage assets. It is possible he is an independent agent on someone's platform. That's pretty common.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:26 PM   #22
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That explains it. He's probably a really sharp guy that's in tune with the market that bases his decisions on experience instead of computer models.
Advisors, for the most part don't manage the assets. They either sell a wrap product or funds that are managed by the investement staff. The models most of them use are how much insurance should you have, how much do you need to save etc.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:26 PM   #23
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:28 PM   #24
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Advisors, for the most part don't manage the assets. They either sell a wrap product or funds that are managed by the investement staff. The models most of them use are how much insurance should you have, how much do you need to save etc.
I know a few ridiculously successful guys out here that are independent but for the most part, I'd agree.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:29 PM   #25
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I know a few ridiculously successful guys out here that are independent but for the most part, I'd agree.
Yea they exist. Dying breed though.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:53 PM   #26
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:10 PM   #28
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:11 PM   #29
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:12 PM   #30
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to explain why I hate ED Jones.

The year was 2000. I was all set to put a lot of money into YUM brands at about $12 per share. The ****er talked me into microsoft instead. I know I shouldn't have listened, but I did.

Would have made a ****ing killing. Instead I took a loss 7 years later.
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