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Happy SECESSION DAY!

....if I celebrate anything it will be our SECESSION from Great Britain.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:44 PM   #2
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IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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Old 07-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #3
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....if I celebrate anything it will be our SECESSION from Great Britain.


Well, I guess that's better than you celebrating our secession from France...
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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....if I celebrate anything it will be our SECESSION from Great Britain.

Americans will shoot fireworks, sit on their porches or by the pool eating grilled burgers and drinking Budweiser, and celebrating the brave sacrifice of our ancestors to break from England.


Except only some of us will. The USA is now what, 20% immigrant? People from those countries have zero connection to the Founding Fathers or the original American people. In fact, many of our citizens are going to denounce the Founders as "racist" bigots and try to get monuments to them removed.


A clear majority of them will read the Declaration and ------ lulz! Sorry, had to stop there. None of them will read it. Let's be real. But if they did ,they'd look at the list of "abuses" by King George and think: "What's the big deal? He supported taxes and government intrusion in our lives. I just told Gallup that I do too!"
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:52 PM   #5
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Americans will shoot fireworks, sit on their porches or by the pool eating grilled burgers and drinking Budweiser, and celebrating the brave sacrifice of our ancestors to break from England.


Except only some of us will. The USA is now what, 20% immigrant? People from those countries have zero connection to the Founding Fathers or the original American people. In fact, many of our citizens are going to denounce the Founders as "racist" bigots and try to get monuments to them removed.


A clear majority of them will read the Declaration and ------ lulz! Sorry, had to stop there. None of them will read it. Let's be real. But if they did ,they'd look at the list of "abuses" by King George and think: "What's the big deal? He supported taxes and government intrusion in our lives. I just told Gallup that I do too!"
The US has always been a nation of immigrants dipshit.

Oh, and budweiser is not an American beer anymore.
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Well, I guess that's better than you celebrating our secession from France...
You are just the kind of person I'd love to torture in effigy on SECESSION DAY, because you have brought most of what was bad about the British Empire and system to America with you. I used to do that when we had Bunker Hill Day in Boston, since I lived on that hilly street. I would stuff a dummy and put it in a red coat with a white wig and hang if from a galley from the third floor. Only thing is I could only find a Nixon mask in the costume stores to put on it. People would throw stuff at it. Even from those in the parade. Very COOL!

Maybe, I should call it "Pick on Limey Day"?
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The US has always been a nation of immigrants dipshit.

Oh, and budweiser is not an American beer anymore.
And besides, those people are Mexicans
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The US has always been a nation of immigrants dipshit.

There have been several long periods in the USA where immigration didn't really occur so your statement is easily disproven. When the Constitution was ratified only 1/4 of the population was immigrant (1/3 of that group was slaves who can hardly be called "immigrants"). For the next 50 years there was almost no immigration. By 1830 only 1.6% of our nation was foreign born.


There were waves in 1840 and 1880. But in 1924 it was almost completely shut down for another 40 years. When that ended only ~4% of Americans were foreign born. So you're grossly misinformed.



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The USA is now what, 20% immigrant?
I'm pretty sure that the US is 100% immigrant. I'd ask the dead native Americans that white man slaughtered, but they've been silenced.
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There have been several long periods in the USA where immigration didn't really occur so your statement is easily disproven. When the Constitution was ratified only 1/4 of the population was immigrant (1/3 of that group was slaves who can hardly be called "immigrants"). For the next 50 years there was almost no immigration. By 1830 only 1.6% of our nation was foreign born.


There were waves in 1840 and 1880. But in 1924 it was almost completely shut down for another 40 years. When that ended only ~4% of Americans were foreign born. So you're grossly misinformed.





Never said it was.
Native Americans didn't ratify the Constitution. All non-native Americans are immigrants at some point or another.
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I'm pretty sure that the US is 100% immigrant. I'd ask the dead native Americans that white man slaughtered, but they've been silenced.
I'm not an immigrant, I'm a native. You're an immigrant?
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You are just the kind of person I'd love to torture in effigy on SECESSION DAY, because you have brought most of what was bad about the British Empire and system to America with you. I used to do that when we had Bunker Hill Day in Boston, since I lived on that hilly street. I would stuff a dummy and put it in a red coat with a white wig and hang if from a galley from the third floor. Only thing is I could only find a Nixon mask in the costume stores to put on it. People would throw stuff at it. Even from those in the parade. Very COOL!

Maybe, I should call it "Pick on Limey Day"?
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Oh good lord.

If you were born in another country and now live here, you are an immigrant.

If you were born here, you are not an immigrant.

It really isn't that difficult.
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It really isn't that difficult.
Obviously, you're not familiar with KCDipshit's body of work here.
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Obviously, you're not familiar with KCDipshit's body of work here.
I am. The "we are a nation of 100% immigration" is somewhat obtuse, but historically correct. We are actually a nation of both natives and immigrants.
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