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Old 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM  
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Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:38 AM   #181
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Nope, YOU CLAIM KC HAS MORE TALENT THAN DENVER. Good lord you're a friggen moron. All I did was say BS.

Wow, you are that stupid.
I said the Chiefs have equal or slightly more talent than you if you take away Manning, who was the difference.

Then your dumbass brought up a shitty Bill Williamson article which said you had ONE more top player, being Manning, so you proved MY point.

JFC you're a stupid Donkey troll.

You shouldn't call anyone's football IQ out when you're the one using a Bill ****ing Williamson article to prove a point.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:47 AM   #182
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:49 AM   #183
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duncan_idaho,

To expand a little on my last post, I am in agreement with what Sac has said best in regards to what Smith is going to do for our defense this season. By keeping them fresh and not giving them a short field to defend, I expect our defense to be better. Much better in fact.

And if we actually start playing with a lead in the 2nd half, I expect this team to be able to pin their ears back and get after QB's... something we didn't have the luxury of being able to do last season.

Again, this is my opinion.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:15 AM   #184
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Chiefs didnt have a lead until half way through the year..
Was this true in 2011? 2010?

If that's the reason that no one outside of Hali and Houston got sacks last year, then they should have been able to when the team was competitive.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:21 AM   #185
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The donk OL, WRs and TEs were looking bad until Peyton got there.

Alex Smith isnt some savior, but he is a sizable upgrade to what we had in Cassel/Quinn and I can see the team playing much better with him at QB.

Anyone that thinks going from Crennel to Reid and Cassel/Quinn to Smith isnt gonna raise the level of play, across the board on this team, is joking themselves.

I expect a better version of the 2010 Chiefs.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:27 AM   #186
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I'm watching the 1980 Oakland Raiders story on NFLNetwork's America's Game right now. It's the Jim Plunkett story. In some ways, I expect we could duplicate here this season what the 1980 Raiders did behind Plunkett.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:30 AM   #187
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Yes way. Alex Smith is crap and hasn't proven anything really in the NFL, Andy Reid's last few teams have been huge underachievers and his system in my opinion has become antiquated in today's NFL, and we have a new head coach, GM, and QB. How do you see more than 5 wins? I might push 6 but that seems optimistic. I'd love to eat my words and see us with at least 8 wins, but I'm not going to get my hopes up, **** no. Just a reminder, what does 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 10-6, 7-9, 2-12 mean to you?
Those records mean we haven't been very good in the past...

What do they mean to you, and what do they have to do with the future?

Hell there are a seven and ten win seasons mixed in there, what tell you we can't win more than six?
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:33 AM   #188
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The donk OL, WRs and TEs were looking bad until Peyton got there.

Alex Smith isnt some savior, but he is a sizable upgrade to what we had in Cassel/Quinn and I can see the team playing much better with him at QB.

Anyone that thinks going from Crennel to Reid and Cassel/Quinn to Smith isnt gonna raise the level of play, across the board on this team, is joking themselves.

I expect a better version of the 2010 Chiefs.
In all fairness, this has been said for years.

It wasn't that long ago that the offense was going to be SO much better under Haley, instead of the RRPP of Herm.

That the QB's were going to really benefit from a QB guru such as Jim Zorn.

Christ, every offseason some of you all said "no, THIS is the year we have a Top 5 defense - RAC is the best DC around."

It amazes me how the coaching went from top-notch to complete shit to the scapegoat for winning 29 games in 6 years.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:37 AM   #189
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Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion. I just don't happen to agree.

And FWIW, I consider myself reasonable too!
I appreciate your point of view even if I disagree with it. You're reasonable and logical and have made me think about some things I otherwise would have.
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I appreciate your point of view even if I disagree with it. You're reasonable and logical and have made me think about some things I otherwise would have.


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Old 07-07-2013, 10:50 AM   #191
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I said the Chiefs have equal or slightly more talent than you if you take away Manning, who was the difference.

Then your dumbass brought up a shitty Bill Williamson article which said you had ONE more top player, being Manning, so you proved MY point.

JFC you're a stupid Donkey troll.

You shouldn't call anyone's football IQ out when you're the one using a Bill ****ing Williamson article to prove a point.
You said kc has more talent, I said BS. You then said "where do you disagree?" I then pointed out TE as one example. Then you basically pulled your same old BS claiming that Moeaki is some kind of great TE.

I said the Broncos are deeper at TE and then I proved this by pointing out an article from Williamson who has one of the Broncos TEs listed but not Maoeki. Your only defense is to claim Williamson sucks. Which is typical of a tard like yourself when you've just been handed your ass in an argument.

Keep ****ing that chicken, loser.
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duncan_idaho,

To expand a little on my last post, I am in agreement with what Sac has said best in regards to what Smith is going to do for our defense this season. By keeping them fresh and not giving them a short field to defend, I expect our defense to be better. Much better in fact.

And if we actually start playing with a lead in the 2nd half, I expect this team to be able to pin their ears back and get after QB's... something we didn't have the luxury of being able to do last season.

Again, this is my opinion.
Sure. I agree with that. I think it's worth somewhere between 5-7 wins. Maybe 8 on the high side.

Enough to get into the playoffs. Not really enough to do anything once you get there, when you examine Smith's performances against strong, playoff-caliber defenses.

The defense still won't be as good as San Francisco's has been the past two seasons. I also think it's a little unreasonable to expect Smith to be as efficient while throwing more often and being asked to be more aggressive as he was in San Francisco.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:53 AM   #193
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You said kc has more talent, I said BS. You then said "where do you disagree?" I then pointed out TE as one example. Then you basically pulled your same old BS claiming that Moeaki is some kind of great TE.

I said the Broncos are deeper at TE and then I proved this by pointing out an article from Williamson who has one of the Broncos TEs listed but not Maoeki. Your only defense is to claim Williamson sucks. Which is typical of a tard like yourself when you've just been handed your ass in an argument.

Keep ****ing that chicken, loser.
I don't think he ever tried to say moeaki was great, just that he had better stats than dressen with much worse qb's. And I don't think an article mentioning one of the broncos proves then a much deeper unit either.
You do realize what "deeper" means, right?
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A 2-14 team (that has won 29 games in 6 years) has more talent than a 13-3 team.

I've officially seen everything.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:57 AM   #195
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A 2-14 team (that has won 29 games in 6 years) has more talent than a 13-3 team.

I've officially seen everything.
I don't think that was actually said...

I could have missed it though
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