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Old 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM  
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Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:19 PM   #391
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Andre Johnson along with the play action off that awesome running game is more responsible for the Houston Texans deep passing game than Schaub.
Call me when Alex Smith throws for 4000 yards, let alone 4700, dumbass.

Matt Schaub > Alex Smith. And it's not close.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:26 PM   #392
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Andre Johnson along with the play action off that awesome running game is more responsible for the Houston Texans deep passing game than Schaub.
Our running game is just as good and Bowe is no slouch.

I don't want to hear excuses.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:31 PM   #393
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Why don't you tell us what you expect out of Alex by using examples of a similar skill level? Examples could include Freeman, Palmer, Ponder, etc.
Why the **** would I compare him to guys that make poor desicions?
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:32 PM   #394
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Russell Wilson
RG3
Flacco
Kaepernick (he was not on pace to throw for 4k)

Guess these QB's suck ass too because they didn't throw 4k last year.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:37 PM   #395
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Using rookie QBs in your argument is weak.

And when Alex Smith wins a SB, I'll cut him some slack.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:40 PM   #396
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Using rookie QBs in your argument is weak.

And when Alex Smith wins a SB, I'll cut him some slack.
If Alex Smith puts up the #'s that RG3 and Russell Wilson does next year, you will have no choice but to cut him some slack.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:41 PM   #397
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If Alex Smith puts up the #'s that RG3 and Russell Wilson does next year, you will have no choice but to cut him some slack.
Incorrect. He has to do more than a couple of ****ing rookies.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:45 PM   #398
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Our running game is just as good and Bowe is no slouch.

I don't want to hear excuses.
People are making excuses for him not performing when he has Bowe and Charles even though we haven't played a snap yet?
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It's his eighth ****ing season. Comparing him to young guys still cutting their teeth is chickenshit.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:51 PM   #400
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It's his eighth ****ing season. Comparing him to young guys still cutting their teeth is chickenshit.
People spent the last four years comparing Cassel to rookie QBs to make him look good, too.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:51 PM   #401
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It's his eighth ****ing season. Comparing him to young guys still cutting their teeth is chickenshit.
Comparing players as if every team is equal in talent and coaching is ****ing ridiculous as well.

Not saying Smith is RGIII or hell even Wilson but to act like they had rookie seasons on equal teams with equal coaching is disingenuous as well.

Go read the Stafford extension thread where all the talk is how much better he would be with good coaching.

No mention of the fact he plays with the best WR in football by a wide margin.

Smith has no excuses here with the coaching or talent, but we haven't seen him fail yet you guys run around here bitching like its done.

Oh wait, I know the answer Smith is Cassel so there can be no other result right.

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Old 07-09-2013, 07:54 PM   #402
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It's his eighth ****ing season. Comparing him to young guys still cutting their teeth is chickenshit.
Some of these young guys are starting out with fantastic support around them.

Alex never got that in his developing years. It wasn't till 2011 that he could begin to really function well... and in that time, he has been one of the top QBs in efficiency.

... and let's be honest... it has become such a backyard balling game that these young guys get a huge advantage over most with their athleticism. We'll see how they do now that defenses have a decent amount of film to study.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:56 PM   #403
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No excuses for Alex, sorry. Whatever talent he was playing with, he was being outperformed by Shaun Hill.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:57 PM   #404
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No excuses for Alex, sorry. Whatever talent he was playing with, he was being outperformed by Shaun Hill.
Where is Shaun Hill now since has done so well Clay?

Shaun Hill has had a better career?

Idiot.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:59 PM   #405
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Where is Shaun Hill now since has done so well Clay?

Shaun Hill has had a better career?

Idiot.
Shaun Hill didn't luck into playing with a stacked team, so his NFL career is in the shitter.

Alex Smith was simply in the right place at the right time.

He's also 33 ****ing years old, idiot.
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